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Old 02-09-2023, 01:09 PM
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Stevie is not a bigger name than Fleetwood Mac. However, her draw is nearly identical to the Fleetwood Mac name. You mentioned how Chris plays all her Mac hits which you think would be a huge draw. Yet Chris's solo tour and the Buck/Vie tour were not big draws. Starting with the RAL tour, Stevie started to eclipse the Mac in arena attendance. For many dates, Stevie's 24K Gold tour equaled or was on par with The Mac's On With The Show numbers. Pretty insane when you think about it. Most nights the OWTS tour grossed at least 1 million or more. Stevie did not do that every night but did do it a few times and came close each night. I know what you are saying but I think you explained it wrong. All of this is connected to Lindsey's firing. Stevie and her management know that most people that fill those seats are there to see her. The band knew it too which is why they did not stand up to Stevie. Sadly, when people hear Fleetwood Mac, the first thing they think of is Stevie Nicks. Not here on this board but the masses. Billy does not need Stevie. But having both on the same show really will pack a stadium. She's no Elton John but still packs a punch. Billy will play a showcase of his entire career. Stevie will stick to her stale setlist mostly skipping key parts of her career.
As far as the BuckVie tour not being a big draw, maybe people didn't want to see Lindsey? I don't know. They still played 5,000 people each night, no?

Elton can fill football stadiums on multiple nights on his own, however, that was on his Farewell Tour. He used to need Billy to do it in the 90s and early 2000s.

Billy could not play Ohio Stadium on his own. The Stones play there on their own. You figure Stevie's bringing in 20,000 people to these Billy shows where he brings in 30,000 - 40,000?
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As far as the BuckVie tour not being a big draw, maybe people didn't want to see Lindsey? I don't know. They still played 5,000 people each night, no?

Elton can fill football stadiums on multiple nights on his own, however, that was on his Farewell Tour. He used to need Billy to do it in the 90s and early 2000s.

Billy could not play Ohio Stadium on his own. The Stones play there on their own. You figure Stevie's bringing in 20,000 people to these Billy shows where he brings in 30,000 - 40,000?
2/3 of Fleetwood Mac singers performing live can get half a small theater full (few thousand). 1/3 of the singers of Fleetwood Mac can get 13,000 people in an arena.
It makes me mental. If it makes me mental just imagine being in the band. Christine McVie was part of the biggest album in history and had so many huge hits but could get 500 to a theater with a solo album and hit single on a solo tour.
Its just reality. The few Fleetwood Mac fans exist on this board. Most attendees are there for Stevie. It always seemed an unspoken truth. When the band acted upon that truth in 2018 was a bitter pill to take. Yes ALL, I am still bitter. Deal with me!
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Stevie spent decades developing her solo brand. Christine’s brand was Fleetwood Mac. If that album had been released as Fleetwood Mac and the four of them toured the album with another large act (like Stevie did with The Pretenders), they probably would have been able to do an arena tour.
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Stevie connects with her audience and makes each of them feel she is singing directly to them, holding those notes and hurling those haunted melodies across time and space. Also, she raises her bat wings and twirls. That’s good for at least 12,000 beer guzzlers, isn’t it?

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Old 02-09-2023, 03:27 PM
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Stevie connects with her audience and makes each of them feel she is singing directly to them, holding those notes and hurling those haunted melodies across time and space. Also, she raises her bat wings and twirls. That’s good for at least 12,000 beer guzzlers, isn’t it?

Stevie also has a stage production going back to TISL with visuals and props on stage, moving curtains, strobes, and of course now she has screens on the drum riser and band platforms.
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Stevie spent decades developing her solo brand. Christine’s brand was Fleetwood Mac. If that album had been released as Fleetwood Mac and the four of them toured the album with another large act (like Stevie did with The Pretenders), they probably would have been able to do an arena tour.
You're not wrong. People, FOR WHATEVER REASON I CAN'T UNDERSTAND, prefer goat for dinner over filet mignon. I'll never understand it... I guess there's no accounting for taste.
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You're not wrong. People, FOR WHATEVER REASON I CAN'T UNDERSTAND, prefer goat for dinner over filet mignon. I'll never understand it... I guess there's no accounting for taste.
Pleeeease!!! You really can't understand? Haven't you seen My Best Friend's Wedding? You must pay attention to the Crčme brűlée / Jell-O theory.
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What is Stevie's solo brand?
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Stevie Nicks.

Stevie has toured consistently as a solo artist and has found ways to get her name out independently of Fleetwood Mac.
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Stevie Nicks.

Stevie has toured consistently as a solo artist and has found ways to get her name out independently of Fleetwood Mac.
And with that too, it's the deep voice, beauty, flowing sleeves, suede boots, chiffon, shawls, and spinning.
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And with that too, it's the deep voice, beauty, flowing sleeves, suede boots, chiffon, shawls, and spinning.
Basically, her brand is the first paragraph of every magazine article about her since 1981. Pick an article at random, read the first paragraph, and there’s the brand.

I just found this in the New Yorker, Feb. 15, 2022.

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On TikTok, her songs provide a soundtrack to viral videos and fans pay tribute to her witchy aesthetic. Artists such as Harry Styles, Miley Cyrus, and Lana Del Rey have asked her to lend her voice to their songs, and she’s become “fairy godmother” to a wide circle of younger artists. For listeners, too, she has always acted as a kind of spiritual guide. In her music, loss is simultaneously earth-shattering and ordinary. Heartbreak is survivable, and possibly a key to self-knowledge. Many of her songs take place at night, in dreams or visions, “somewhere out in the back of your mind.” Her narrator frequently asks questions of herself and of some higher power, as if in constant conversation with her own intuition.
That’s her brand!
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Stevie Nicks.

Stevie has toured consistently as a solo artist and has found ways to get her name out independently of Fleetwood Mac.
I have seriously always wondered if she would have gone anywhere if she hadn't looked like she looked.

No one ever wrote a song, "Sit On My Face, Mick Fleetwood". And that's a fact.

Just sayin'...
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I have seriously always wondered if she would have gone anywhere if she hadn't looked like she looked.

No one ever wrote a song, "Sit On My Face, Mick Fleetwood". And that's a fact.

Just sayin'...
No doubt. She was hot, she had a gimmick that became her stage persona, she had a distinctive voice, and could harmonize with anyone. She’s a unique character in the annals of Rock.

She was also very driven and maybe the most business savvy of the lot. She always went with the most relevant names of the day: Tom Petty, Don Henley, Bruce Hornsby, Kenny G, Sheryl Crow, Natalie Maines. She found ways to stay fairly relevant.

Also, think of the narrative that she couldn’t have joined Fleetwood Mac if Lindsey hadn’t insisted she be included and that the only way she could join Fleetwood Mac was if Christine liked her. Then factor in how creatively dependent she’d been on Lindsey. She no doubt had a chip on her shoulder and was hellbent on never having to be dependent on anyone professionally ever again, and after Bella Donna, she had all the security she’d ever need. Fleetwood Mac could fire her and she’d be just fine. Frankly, I’m blown away she’s not an even bigger diva.
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