Box set potential

[David]

Considering that THE DANCE was a number one album and that the CD was always a shortened track list, it seems bizarre that, in twenty-three years, it has never been repackaged more completely or been transferred to Blu-ray. I don't know whether it was originally filmed on celluloid and I have heard that a high-definition release is impossible. What I hear is that film stock can be upgraded to high-def or UHD but that digital shoots can't.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by David

Considering that THE DANCE was a number one album and that the CD was always a shortened track list, it seems bizarre that, in twenty-three years, it has never been repackaged more completely or been transferred to Blu-ray. I don't know whether it was originally filmed on celluloid and I have heard that a high-definition release is impossible. What I hear is that film stock can be upgraded to high-def or UHD but that digital shoots can't.

Screw The Dance. MIRAGE is them at their peak. And I want the unreleased songs!!! THAT'S what needs to happen. Somebody tell that old bastard Mick to stick a crowbar in his wallet and make it happen!

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Screw The Dance. MIRAGE is them at their peak. And I want the unreleased songs!!! THAT'S what needs to happen. Somebody tell that old bastard Mick to stick a crowbar in his wallet and make it happen!

Yes! The FULL Mirage show would be really something. Sara, Hold Me, Brown Eyes, etc

But I know, you just want the Blu-ray version of Not That Funny to show your friends

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

But I know, you just want the Blu-ray version of Not That Funny to show your friends

NTF ran them out of the house in 1985, and I'm sure it can still hold that standard today.

The screaming...all that ridiculous SCREAMING.

"We'll watch this with you, as long as you fast forward through that one song!"

[David]

But which "full Mirage show"? Not the LA video - I've seen it already. Wouldn't you rather have a film of the performance at Joe Louis in Detroit, or at the Meadowlands, or the Oakland Coliseum, or McNichols in Denver - all great, great shows that you could discover afresh? Even the show at Irvine Meadows seemed more tightly packed with great, haunting moments than LA. Truthfully, LA felt to me like an also-ran to Irvine (which was about a week or two earlier) and to Oakland the night before. The tour had many highlights, but the stuff that wound up on the sloppy, vibe-killing video didn't capture enough of them.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by David

But which "full Mirage show"? Not the LA video - I've seen it already. Wouldn't you rather have a film of the performance at Joe Louis in Detroit, or at the Meadowlands, or the Oakland Coliseum, or McNichols in Denver - all great, great shows that you could discover afresh? Even the show at Irvine Meadows seemed more tightly packed with great, haunting moments than LA. Truthfully, LA felt to me like an also-ran to Irvine (which was about a week or two earlier) and to Oakland the night before. The tour had many highlights, but the stuff that wound up on the sloppy, vibe-killing video didn't capture enough of them.

Yes to all of this. What they put out for the live performances on the Mirage Deluxe was absolutely awful especially after how well the the Tusk Deluxe was done. To just put in the exact songs pulled direct from the 30+ year old Video was lazy and sloppy. A full show with the songs in the correct order, Hold Me, Brown Eyes, etc would have been so much better. Somewhere I have MP3 files of Oakland and Denver. It’s been years since I pulled them up but from what I remember both are great shows and include equally strong performances of the video highlights (The Chain, Sisters). I can imagine actual recordings that have been cleaned up would be amazing and certainly preferable to what they actually did on Deluxe.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by David

But which "full Mirage show"? Not the LA video - I've seen it already. Wouldn't you rather have a film of the performance at Joe Louis in Detroit, or at the Meadowlands, or the Oakland Coliseum, or McNichols in Denver - all great, great shows that you could discover afresh? Even the show at Irvine Meadows seemed more tightly packed with great, haunting moments than LA. Truthfully, LA felt to me like an also-ran to Irvine (which was about a week or two earlier) and to Oakland the night before. The tour had many highlights, but the stuff that wound up on the sloppy, vibe-killing video didn't capture enough of them.

Yes! Everyone would agree to that but is that reality? Were any of those shows recorded? Back in those days it was lots of work with a big film crew to record concerts. I would be surprised if they took them on the road to video all the shows you mentioned.
If any of them were professionally shot then of course, they would be fantastic. But even in 1982 groups hammed it up for a recording. Didn't someone say in the LA Mirage show that part of Christine's keyboards were prop for the cameras?

I cant even watch the lip syncing of the Mac's 1988 "live" show and Stevie's Red Rocks.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Yes! Everyone would agree to that but is that reality? Were any of those shows recorded? Back in those days it was lots of work with a big film crew to record concerts. I would be surprised if they took them on the road to video all the shows you mentioned.
If any of them were professionally shot then of course, they would be fantastic. But even in 1982 groups hammed it up for a recording. Didn't someone say in the LA Mirage show that part of Christine's keyboards were prop for the cameras?

I cant even watch the lip syncing of the Mac's 1988 "live" show and Stevie's Red Rocks.

I want the Mirage Tour recording of Hold Me!

Tango is the only FM video I don't own(well, I think I have it on VHS somewhere). I can't stand 90% of it. All those stupid closeups. What kind of egomaniac hires a "closeup director"?

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by David

But which "full Mirage show"? Not the LA video - I've seen it already. Wouldn't you rather have a film of the performance at Joe Louis in Detroit, or at the Meadowlands, or the Oakland Coliseum, or McNichols in Denver - all great, great shows that you could discover afresh? Even the show at Irvine Meadows seemed more tightly packed with great, haunting moments than LA. Truthfully, LA felt to me like an also-ran to Irvine (which was about a week or two earlier) and to Oakland the night before. The tour had many highlights, but the stuff that wound up on the sloppy, vibe-killing video didn't capture enough of them.

I've heard all of those bootlegs. Yes, I would love to hear a clean version of Denver or NJ.

[David]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I've heard all of those bootlegs. Yes, I would love to hear a clean version of Denver or NJ.

There is a little Denver on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85YeIeS_U0Q.

I have always loved the 1982 Meadowlands and the Detroit concerts on audience tape. There are not of course enormous differences between performances in the span of a five-week tour. There are smaller but still prominent differences in band tightness and adventurousness (especially from Mick and his fills) and certainly in Stevie's and Christine's vocals. I have long thought that the band filmed the wrong shows in 1982 - and 1987 and 2003 and . . . . You need to film a number of shows on a tour and settle on the best. Actually, if you have Fleetwood Mac's budget, you should film twenty shows. I think that the band just didn't give a damn about recording concerts for posterity and those few products were an afterthought or were scrambled together by the band's assistants. The ugly, ill-lit footage from the Forum in 1982 is a case in point: How could a superstar band who created such lovely promo videos that year that advanced the art also release a feature-length concert video that looks as if it were shot by a local spot-news crew just passing by? And the audio - which couldn't even be cleaned up well for a deluxe Mirage release a few years ago - was atrocious. It was like a home recording of a kid in the sports arena audience.