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Here I am, sorry I've been away a few days. Yes, Lindsey and Anne dated for a while at some point during 1993 as he toured for Out of the Cradle.
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Re: Re: Interpretation: MIRANDA
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The song says it all, really. Read the book, read the lyrics to Miranda, and there you have it. It is clearly Anne Heche he's describing. The lyric about seeing her father holding her down, comes right out of her life of childhood sexual abuse. The parts about not wanting to be loved but loving to be seen, also describes her to a T. The comparison of fame and celebrity as being like a drug to her is also exactly how Anne describes her ambition to become a famous star, because her father's facination with stars, ect. It all make sense to me, Miranda being Anne Heche. I used to think Anne was just some kookie Hollywood flake. The jokes about her breakdown and the Ellen stuff don't help if that's all you know about her. After I read the whole book, I developed a lot of empathy and admiration for her. She seems to think the past is now behind her, but I don't think so. Anyone who's experienced that kind of abuse from a parent is never going to be "over" it, but at least she's on her way to making sure it doesn't rule her entire life...the lion rules Miranda...and Miranda is always alone... BTW...I think he wrote the song before she wrote the book. He probably didn't know she's trying to deal with that part of her past in a more positive way now, and not let it rule every other aspect of her life. I agree with the poster who said he wouldn't write a song about someone he didn't care about. I think he wrote this close to the time after they broke up and he was kinda saying "sorry" for not understanding her better when they were dating. Everything about the song says he's talking about someone with identity problems, a person who doesn't know how to accept love, someone who is probably a celebrity of some kind but who is also facinated by other celebrities and obsessed with that part of her life, and also someone who has obviously been abused and is suffering from it and doesn't know how to cope with it...all these things describe Anne as she was when they dated. If you read her book, I'm sure you'd agree. Last edited by glitter_fades; 06-10-2003 at 03:41 PM.. |
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I agree with what Glitter & Lori say...
I feel Miranda has Anne Heche written all over it.
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But the lion still rules Miranda.. Does Anne Heche have a contract with MGM?
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A compromise
OK then.
Let us agree that the song is specifically about Anne Heche, but also more generally about beautiful, famous, needy, crazy, unhappy women, and that this class includes Stevie and many others. Apart from MGM , is there a lion specific to Anne? Whatdid rule her? Also, do we know what drugs she took? |
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Seeing Miranda from Lindsey's point of view
Lindsey is mocking and ironic about Miranda. How come?
I have considered Lindsey's point of view, and here is what I see. Miranda thinks she is totally crazy and mortally unhappy. She thinks she is dying with all of her might. But Lindsey, who has rather more experience of life, knows that Miranda is behaving like a teenage drama queen and is in no real danger. She sticks the camera right into her arm, not a needle: going through the motions of drug addiction, but not really addicted. She says "I'm dying" but what she means is "look at me!". She's not really crazy either, just neurotic and immature. I guess (pure speculation) if Lindsey has lived with someone who has make numerous suicide threats and only a few half-hearted attempts, his sympathy would wear pretty thin. So that may be how he sees her. |
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A contrarian view
My wife says Miranda never actually took drugs - she'd just spill a little on the carpet and flush the rest down the toilet.
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I am just finishing Anne's book. In it she says that she never really "did" drugs but she did do LSD therapy for awhile to help her with her "demons". Some of the LSD sessions were pretty wild according to her book. It supposedly helped her come to terms with her abuse.
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Well dont forget she was allegedly on esctasy when she had her breakdown in the Central Valley of CA.
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Ecstasy
Call me naive, but I understand that ecstasy is not regarded as particularly dangerous. Certainly not in the same league as cocaine and heroin.
Perhaps this is why Lindsey is so mocking. Addicted to ecstasy??? And you think you're dying with all of your might??? Gag my mouth with a spoon! |
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I really like Miranda it is one of my favorites
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Stevie
A song about Stevie. 'Miranda; was sung by Stevie while backing up John Stewart in Midnight Wind.
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