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Old 05-12-2021, 02:25 PM
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I have no problem with the songs on the Say You Will album. They’re good songs and some of them are great. (I’m not going to list which songs are great because some of you will jump down my throat.) But there are producer choices I dislike: the flange and phase effects on the vocals, which is really excessive; the tin-horn EQ (done deliberately in the style that was popular at that time to accommodate heavy subwoofers in automobiles); and the smack engineering which gave me Meniere’s syndrome or destroyed several million inner-ear hair cells with all that pan and delay. Question for Mark Needham: does Fleetwood Mac have to sound like Flavor Flav? Mick and John are sometimes engineered to sound like human voices doing beatboxing.

Of course, the issue with the technology “improvements” is only relative. These engineering styles aren’t good or bad in an absolute sense. The question is whether they serve the songs and the personality of the band. I think Dashut, Caillat, and the band had already pioneered a personal production style in their batch of albums, and in retrospect it was a better fit for the songs than anything since. The evidence is that the original “Dreams” is much better than any of the four dozen modern remixes of the song, and the original songs on Tango are better than all those club remixes, which huff and puff like aerobics and you lose the emotional core of the song.
Oh my!! I love this post.

Add to the fact, (Re: flavor flav comment). It sounds like Stevie is holding her nose or has a nose plug on her nose in the intro. How did anyone not hear how horrible that sounds?
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Oh my!! I love this post.

Add to the fact, (Re: flavor flav comment). It sounds like Stevie is holding her nose or has a nose plug on her nose in the intro. How did anyone not hear how horrible that sounds?
I love that intro. It’s so weird. It simulates an isolation chamber, which reinforces the angst of the opening lines of the lyric. She sounds trapped in that space—and that’s part of the point.

I can see why someone would hate the opening of the song, but I think that discomfort or resistance is part of the experience of the lyric.

When I first heard it, I laughed out loud. It was so absurd and disturbing and smart at the same time.
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I love that intro. It’s so weird. It simulates an isolation chamber, which reinforces the angst of the opening lines of the lyric. She sounds trapped in that space—and that’s part of the point.

I can see why someone would hate the opening of the song, but I think that discomfort or resistance is part of the experience of the lyric.

When I first heard it, I laughed out loud. It was so absurd and disturbing and smart at the same time.
It still is to me. I feel like it's a joke. I played it for someone that doesn't care about her or FM and they laughed too. "WTF is that??!!!" I believe was the quote.
I guess it's foreshadowing what her regular voice sounds like now. So there was that.
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It still is to me. I feel like it's a joke. I played it for someone that doesn't care about her or FM and they laughed too. "WTF is that??!!!" I believe was the quote.
I guess it's foreshadowing of what her regular voice sounds like now. So there was that.
Well, I give you that: she really does sound this way ALL THE TIME these days.

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Well, I give you that: she really does sound this way ALL THE TIME these days.
When you sound horrible, EVERYBODY FINDS OUT!
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I love that intro. It’s so weird. It simulates an isolation chamber, which reinforces the angst of the opening lines of the lyric. She sounds trapped in that space—and that’s part of the point.

I can see why someone would hate the opening of the song, but I think that discomfort or resistance is part of the experience of the lyric.

When I first heard it, I laughed out loud. It was so absurd and disturbing and smart at the same time.
I always thought it was meant to sound like she was on the telephone.
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I always thought it was meant to sound like she was on the telephone.
It's possible. The effect is the same: one of disconnection and loneliness. I really like the opening to the song.
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All of Stevie's best songs seem to be about several things at once. This sounds like a love on the road that was tried to be kept secret. I cant remember where I read possibly it was Billy Burnette? I have no source on that just something that I heard that could be completely not true.
What I do appreciate about this song is the first line. Could it be one of her few songs that touches on her klonopin addiction while on tour?
We see no change in sight
watching her decline
She gets on a midnight plane
She's done it a thousand times
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I always thought it was meant to sound like she was on the telephone.
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