If Lindsey would have died, would Stevie & Mick be allowed at funeral?

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

I don’t think you really thought about this. He was fired from the band and he sued. It wasn’t amicable and he was the person who shaped the music and made them stars. Stevie and Mick were the two cocaine addicts who put the band through hell.

Why would they be invited? He wouldn’t want to be used by Stevie $ Mick again for attention. They treated him like garbage.

This thread is really depressing but I'm sure his kids would've eulogized. His brother probably would've offered a reflection. And generally when musicians have a funeral, a fellow industry professional speaks.

I imagine Stevie could best articulate his massive impact on popular rock music. I'm being impartial. He worked closest with her and longest.

I mean I guess the Fritz guys could've spoken. How old are they any way? Does any one know if they're the same age as Lindsey?

[BombaySapphire3]

No they should not have been allowed...also congratulations for writing " would have " instead of would of in the title of this thread..I'm impressed!

[David]

Very interesting and macabre question. I suppose that his wife and maybe his three grown children will set the agenda for his funeral, including invitations, notices, and so on. When we were last hearing publicly from his wife, she was not all that happy with the other members of Fleetwood Mac, right? Based on what I vaguely recall from her tweets, posted here, she did not seem in the receptive frame of mind.

Another interesting and less macabre question: If Lindsey and Chris are still friends, why wouldn't they record and release another Buckingham McVie album? From Christine's perspective, what else is she doing, other than waiting for a vaccine so that Mac can go back on the road, which could be never? Is it possible that Lindsey plans to incorporate Christine into his new album, not as a co-equal (it's going to be called "Lindsey Buckingham," after all, not "More Buckingham McVie") but as a guest artist?

Questions, questions!

My most pressing question is whether someone is going to release the rest of those 1980 concerts from Tucson, Omaha, and London, from which we got a few cuts for the deluxe batch a few years ago?

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by David

If Lindsey and Chris are still friends, why wouldn't they record and release another Buckingham McVie album? From Christine's perspective, what else is she doing, other than waiting for a vaccine so that Mac can go back on the road, which could be never? Is it possible that Lindsey plans to incorporate Christine into his new album, not as a co-equal (it's going to be called "Lindsey Buckingham," after all, not "More Buckingham McVie") but as a guest artist?

He shouldn't ask her, because she's not a real friend. She's a company woman. Her loyalty is only to the FM brand. I lost so much respect for my lifetime heroine. She and Lindsey could have rode into the sunset playing theaters together(that would have been my dream come true). Instead, she let that old bi*ch throw him under the bus. She's not a real friend. He's better off without her.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

and he was the person who shaped the music and made them stars. Stevie and Mick were the two cocaine addicts who put the band through hell.

OFFS.

Look, if Lindsey had the power to sprinkle his studio fairy dust into rock stardom, why did his six solo albums sell less than the six post-Peter, pre-BN Fleetwood Mac albums? And, don’t give me that dipsh*t “his solo albums weren’t meant to be commercial” crap. His songs on OOTC are interchangeable with his TITN songs. Stevie had the most overall Top 40 hits and Christine had the most of the band’s Top 40 hits. I mean, yeah Lindsey is a brilliant producer, but the freakshow is what moved albums, not his production. Stevie had more Top 40 hits produced by Jimmy than Lindsey.

You know why Lindsey talked about the “43 year legacy?” Because that’s all he has. Stevie has her Hall of Fame solo career and Mick, John, and Christine have their blues roots, which, hey, Mick got the likes of Pete Townshend and David Gilmour to celebrate earlier this year. John McVie was the bassist of record on the breakout albums by John Mayall, Eric Clapton, Peter Green, Aynsley Dunbar, Mick Taylor, Mick Fleetwood, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwan, Lindsey Buckingham, and Stevie Nicks. That’s ten Hall of Famers, two multiple inductees. They worked their butts of touring and playing the game and have more storied careers to show for it than Lindsey.

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

No they should not have been allowed...also congratulations for writing " would have " instead of would of in the title of this thread..I'm impressed!

[Jondalar]

Most of Lindsey’s albums didn’t occur in his prime and he was always saving stuff for Fleetwood Mac. Plus, he had to turn the slop Stevie handed in into workable songs.

You are also forgetting that not all of Stevie’s hits were written by her and she had plenty of help from Tom Petty, Don Henley, Prince... Lindsey **** is all his own and he doesn’t need any help.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Most of Lindsey’s albums didn’t occur in his prime and he was always saving stuff for Fleetwood Mac. Plus, he had to turn the slop Stevie handed in into workable songs.

In 1981, they were four years from “Rumours” and Stevie had a #1 album that sold millions of copies and Lindsey had a #32 album that sold 350,000 albums, even with a Top 10 single. Same year, same band. If Lindsey was responsible for their success, then why did his album sell so poorly compared to Stevie’s?

You are also forgetting that not all of Stevie’s hits were written by her and she had plenty of help from Tom Petty, Don Henley, Prince... Lindsey **** is all his own and he doesn’t need any help.

That said, because he never worked with anyone else, he never got beyond being just a member of a specific incarnation of Fleetwood Mac in the public’s mind. Stevie was able to be seen as a viable entity in her own right outside of Fleetwood Mac. Sure, she sounds amazing with Lindsey and Christine, but also Kenny, Tom, and Don. Lindsey is the only one who never had a viable career outside of the Rumours band.

[lovethemac1]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Most of Lindsey’s albums didn’t occur in his prime and he was always saving stuff for Fleetwood Mac. Plus, he had to turn the slop Stevie handed in into workable songs.

You are also forgetting that not all of Stevie’s hits were written by her and she had plenty of help from Tom Petty, Don Henley, Prince... Lindsey **** is all his own and he doesn’t need any help.

^^^^ Amen.

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

No they should not have been allowed...also congratulations for writing " would have " instead of would of in the title of this thread..I'm impressed!

I think technically it should be 'had' instead of 'would have'

[Macfan4life]

This is a odd thread but let me stick some reality into it. The family would decide who spoke. I don't think Lindsey's wife is a big fan of Mick or Stevie so I would not imagine they would be asked to speak.
Mick did not even attend his mother's funeral. I am not making judgment and everyone has their own way to grieve.
Celebrities sometimes do not attend funerals so they are not accused of making it about themselves. It does not mean they don't care. I have been around enough funerals to despise the people who make it about themselves. When my mother passed away, my least favorite Aunt tried to make the funeral about herself. I had to bite my tongue several times during the week. We don't speak these days.
I don't think they would attend nor do I think they would be asked to speak. Just like they never attended the long list of other former Fleetwood Mac members i.e. Bob Welch, etc
However if Stevie did get asked to speak, I agree much of what she would say would be about herself.

[elle]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I imagine Stevie could best articulate his massive impact on popular rock music. I'm being impartial. He worked closest with her and longest.

but that's exactly it. did you hear her talking about him the last few years? it's almost every single time to say how he was a lazy pothead bum while she worked to support them. why would his family want that?

fellow musicians - and he is very respected among his peers - yes, definitely. those people can appreciate and voice his massive impact. just read all the killers interviews coming out now. someone who will belittle him and make it all about themselves? that person should not talk.

i am also not sure that he worked the longest with her. they know each other for a long long time, since they were teenagers. but their working relationship was just in spurts since what? 1982 Mirage?


that said, i hate the premise of this thread and was trying really hard not to click on it or reply.

[michelej1]

I do not think Stevie would give a good eulogy since she makes everything about herself. I would not ask her to speak. Mary and Barry was her complaining that at her fathers funeral, her brother made it all about himself. Well, Stevie suffers from the same disease.

Mick would probably give a very good eulogy, albeit insincere, but he’s been such a horrid creature that I don’t think that he should even be invited.

I don’t know, ask Richard to speak.

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I do not think Stevie would give a good eulogy since she makes everything about herself. I would not ask her to speak. Mary and Barry was her complaining that at her fathers funeral, her brother made it all about himself. Well, Stevie suffers from the same disease.

Mick would probably give a very good eulogy, albeit insincere, but he’s been such a horrid creature that I don’t think that he should even be invited.

I don’t know, ask Richard to speak.

people who speak should be friends and family who love and/or respect the person. and in Lindsey's case, many in the music business do. again just look at all the Killers interviews - and there are tons of them these days since the album just came out.

if you stream the album, you can so clearly hear Lindsey's influence on Caution, when in between all the other songs on the album.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I do not think Stevie would give a good eulogy since she makes everything about herself. I would not ask her to speak. Mary and Barry was her complaining that at her fathers funeral, her brother made it all about himself. Well, Stevie suffers from the same disease.

Mick would probably give a very good eulogy, albeit insincere, but he’s been such a horrid creature that I don’t think that he should even be invited.

I don’t know, ask Richard to speak.

This is soo true. She would just use his death for herself and then probably write a song about called - Why did Lindsey do this to me?

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

This is soo true. She would just use his death for herself and then probably write a song about called - Why did Lindsey do this to me?

This is so funny, because it's completely true.

"It's just so selfish of him to do this to me... Lindsey, how could you do this to me?"

$he truly is a narcissist's narcissist.