If Lindsey could turn back time, would he have helped Stevie soo much?

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I like Stevie's songs on Say You Will. People hate Silver Girl and Running Through the Garden but I think they're on Stevie's best FM songs.

I definitely think Stevie's hardest rock songs are on SYW.

Her nine songs on SYW to me are her best solo album.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Her nine songs on SYW to me are her best solo album.

Nope. Bella Donna is absolute perfection.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Her nine songs on SYW to me are her best solo album.

Ten if you count Not Make Believe!
I love how the SYW songs have darkness... even SYW
Goodbye Baby vocal and orchestration are celestial

[michelej1]

I mean, people laugh at the "everything" lyric, but Not Make Believe is a very good song.

[snroxman]

Re: I mean, people laugh at the "everything" lyric, but Not Make Believe is a very good song.

I loved this song! Not so much in the TISL demo, but on SYW! It's still in my SYW playlist.

[jbrownsjr]

Love 'Not Make Believe'. Should have replaced WTWCT

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by snroxman

Re: I mean, people laugh at the "everything" lyric, but Not Make Believe is a very good song.

I loved this song! Not so much in the TISL demo, but on SYW! It's still in my SYW playlist.

I agree with you. The TISL demo drags for me. The SYW is fast/rockin and it's a great band track. I also love how it's Stevie who starts the song. That would be a good thread... songs where it starts with vocal. Cathouse Blues comes to mind.. mind is blank now!

[elle]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Love 'Not Make Believe'.

more sacrilege in LB forum. out with you!

Not Make Believe makes me vomit. i have to stop it immediately when it comes on after heavenly version of Love Minus Zero so my ears don't start bleeding.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Exhibit B- Her entire solo career, of which Lindsey had absolutely nothing to do with.

I remember several reviews of Tango in which When I See You Again was called the weakest song on the album, although a few reviews liked it. The Second Time is not great, either, but it’s not as bad as the former. Faint praise though. Whassa matter… baby… baby… BABY! Nothing on the Second Time is as bad as that.

NOT true.

Many of her demos that ended up on solo albums she sent to him (her cassettes) and he worked on them, uncredited.

All the way up to her album with Dave, "the best experience of her life" ...when she got stuck on Soldier's Angel and Dave couldn't translate what she wanted, who did she call?? And who came and bailed her out??

Many of the songs on Bella Donna were older songs and she had already worked them out with him.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

This is a loaded question so its hard to answer. The answer is yes and no and who cares. Lindsey has changed like all of us change over the years. I remember an interview he did during Mirage where he stated he saw his future of never touring after the age of 40 LOL

I think even he admits her solo success bothered him. I think the jealousy definitely made him regret helping her. He has said this numerous times in interviews that it was hard for him to help her but he still did.

After Tusk I dont think he helped her to the degree he did in the earlier years. And to be honest, it would have been really hard to do it anyway. She was not sober in the early Tango days.

If he could turn back time would he have still done it? Probably so because in those early days her success was his success. Did he regret it later on? Yes. Does he care today? Probably not. Lindsey seems at peace these days and not into fighting but more setting the record straight. He would go back to the Mac and help Stevie if asked to do it. Although it wont happen.

Strange enough Lindsey even helped Stevie when she was not around making his voice sound like hers and doing clever things in layering her voice in areas on Tango. So even post Tusk, he was still a team member making the group effort the most important thing. Stevie's songs on Tango suck not because he did not want to help her but that she contributed bad songs and she was not around in the process to make them better. You can put lipstick on a pig but its still a pig

I also think he worked his ass off on SYW and she has some great songs on there (sorry Homer). BTW, stop hating on Lindsey for the way he sings and plays guitar (come).

I think the help he gave her on Tango was ENORMOUS. She sounded like sh&t during most of that time, couldn't show up to the studio, and was falling apart personally. He worked his arse off to make her sound like she had made a contribution worthy of being listed on the album (also thanks to Sandy Stewart).

Did he do it just for HER though? Of course not. He did it for himself, for the band. I agree with those who say he was aware of his reputation as a producer and didn't want to jeopardize that. He produced her songs enough that no one could accuse him of not helping her, but agree he let some clunkers through that in the past he would have not. Then again, he had more power over her before her solo success. "You will never rule again the way you have ruled"

[michelej1]

There Elle goes, hurting my everything again.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by michelej1

There Elle goes, hurting my everything again.

I wonder how the song would sound if she sang "It hurts, just everything"

My Everything could've been a tribute to Barry White's First, Last, My Everything

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I wonder how the song would sound if she sang "It hurts, just everything"

My Everything could've been a tribute to Barry White's First, Last, My Everything

I'm a woman who appreciates all references to Barry White, certainly.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I'm a woman who appreciates all references to Barry White, certainly.

Funny that people would hate the "My Everything" but not "It was the best of times, It was the worst of times"

I like that Peackekeeper and NMB sing of taking no prisoners.

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Can you provide more exhibits please?
I like When I See You Again. I think The Second Time is her worst ballad ever.

Her worst ballad by far is The Highwayman. Lucky Lindsey was far away from that.