Live 1980 Album - Retracked

[Andy Man]

I've always enjoyed the 1980 live double album, however I can't help but wonder how much more epic it would have been if the track listing had been different. First, I would have not added any of the new studio tracks - only live cuts. Secondly, I would have focussed more on the best live songs the Mac had at the time, many of which were not included. Here would be my ideal list:

Side A
01. Monday Morning
02. Say You Love Me
03. Dreams
04. The Chain
05. Oh Well
06. Over & Over

Side B
01. Tusk
02. Sara
03. Why
04. Never Going Back Again
05. Landslide
06. Gold Dust Woman

Side C
01. Over My Head
02. Rhiannon
03. Second Hand News
04. Don't Let Me Down Again
05. Sisters Of The Moon

Side D
01. You Make Loving Fun
02. Don't Stop
03. Go Your Own Way
04. I'm So Afraid
05. Songbird

What would your ideal 1980 Live look like?

[PenguinHead]

Firelies, Farmer's Daughter, and Oh Well made the album special - it gave us something new. LIVE was somewhat unconventional because it wasn't a straight shot live show, but tracks from different shows.

Oh Well aside, Firelies, One More Night and Farmer's Daughter have ever been in the set list up to that time. Dreams and Don't Stop were rehearsals, and a few of the tracks are from the Rumours era.

I assume that they have the rest of the live recordings from the Tusk tour in the can. It would be great if they if they released an expanded version of LIVE with all the outtakes. One issue of concern is congruity; many of the tracks on the album were sweetened up in the studio. I wonder if the outtakes got the same treatment, or were they left in their original form.

I'd love a live collection that features all the prior Mac/related songs they initially performed early on when Lindsey and Stevie first joined.

Get Like You Used to Be
Station Man
Green Manalishi
Sunny Side of Heaven
Believe Me
Why

Frozen Love and Jumping at Shadows were only one-time performances. I doubt they were ever professionally recorded.
I'm surprised they never performed Black Magic Woman -- perhaps because it was a huge hit for Santana around that time.

[SteveMacD]

That would never fit on vinyl.

[Macfanforever]

It should go in order as the setlist goes.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

It should go in order as the setlist goes.

There are different approaches to Live albums. It could be one entire performance, or selected performances from various shows.

I like the LIVE album because it's not conventional. But I was a little disappointed that the live disc from the most recent Rumours deluxe edition wasn't an entire show, but just a stingy 12 songs with no reference of where they were performed. But it's very clear that they received no touch up.

[Andy Man]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

There different approaches to Live albums. It could be one entire performance, or selected performances from various shows.

I like the LIVE album because it's not conventional. But I was a little disappointed that the live disc from the most recent Rumours deluxe edition wasn't an entire show, but just a stingy 12 songs with no reference of where they were performed. But it's very clear that they received no touch up.

Yes, I agree. This release was a bigger disappointment. Had they included "Second Hand News" and "You Make Loving Fun" it would have been a stellar live collection from the tour.

[Macfan4life]

This has been brought up several times before.
Thank goodness they did this live album because they were on top of their game. It has the best live versions of Rhiannon, Over My Head, Oh Well, Say You Love Me and the ultimate live version of I'm So Afraid.

Missing is the Chain and Sisters for sure. Fireflies and One More Lonely Night are duds IMHO. Its nice to put something new but lacking production and creativity. I would like the Chain and Sisters live over these songs anyday.

Love they put some deep cuts from Tusk on the album like Over and Over. That song live translates into a completely different realm. The guitar with harmonies at the end are amazing.

I like the song Dreams and usually every live version is ok but this live version is horrible. Stevie is milking her voice sounding like an amateur. It was not recorded during the Tusk tour and they took it from a Paris sound check from the Rumours tour. I think she let the success of the song at that time go to her head and that is why she sounds the way that she does LOL

But OMG even though this album was not a huge financial success and even the band and management was against it. Mick wrote in his 1990 book that it was his idea and sort of forced everyone to make it happen. Thank goodness it happened. It really shows the difference between Fleetwood Mac in the studio and Fleetwood Mac LIVE.

Another goodie is a live version of Don't Let Me Down Again.

[WayOfTheDragon]

Attempting to fit things onto a double vinyl album:

Side A
1. The Chain
2. Think About Me
3. Dreams
4. Oh Well
5. Rhiannon


Side B
1. Over and Over
2. Sara (using the original concert performance-- without the re-done vocals)
3. Not That Funny (using the shorter version from the first leg of the '79 tour)
4. Get Like You Used To Be
5. Landslide


Side c
1. Tusk
2. Angel
3. You Make Loving Fun
4. What Makes You Think You're The One
5. One More Night


Side D
1. Go Your Own Way
2. Blue Letter
3. I'm So Afraid
4. Songbird
5. The Farmer's Daughter

[SteveMacD]

I've been playing around with this, and I've noticed that Stevie's songs tend to be pretty long. While those performances were pretty epic during the shows, it becomes a logistical nightmare when putting together an album like this, since each side of an album should be 22 minutes at most (although they certainly went over a few times on this one). It always appears like she's getting the shaft whenever I put something together, even though she's getting the same amount of album time. I can get like six or seven of Lindsey's songs in the same space as four of Stevie's.

[MikeInNV]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I've been playing around with this, and I've noticed that Stevie's songs tend to be pretty long. While those performances were pretty epic during the shows, it becomes a logistical nightmare when putting together an album like this, since each side of an album should be 22 minutes at most (although they certainly went over a few times on this one). It always appears like she's getting the shaft whenever I put something together, even though she's getting the same amount of album time. I can get like six or seven of Lindsey's songs in the same space as four of Stevie's.

Pretty much the same situation as the Tusk album, right?

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by MikeInNV

Pretty much the same situation as the Tusk album, right?

Pretty much.

[PenguinHead]

I wish Fleetwood Mac would release an expansive live anthology similar to the one Tom Petty did - five discs of 62 songs. His compilation includes album tracks and covers from various eras in random order.

It would be an arduous task to select the best rendition of their staple songs among so many eras. It's such a personal matter of opinion. I'd also include the songs performed with the Time band, but I can't remember what they played. Fleetwood Mac's all inclusive live repertoire would require perhaps six CDs.


1. Jumping at Shadows - bootleg
2. Green Manalishi
3. Spare Me a Little
4. Believe Me
5. Why
6. Get Like You Used to Be
7. Don't Let Me Down Again
8. Frozen Love -bootleg
9. Say You Love Me
10. Monday Morning
11. Blue Letter
12. Rhiannon
13. Over My Head
14. Landslide
15. World Turning
16. I'm So Afraid
17. Second Hand News
18. Dreams
19. Never Going Back Again
20. Don't Stop
21. Go Your Own Way
22. Songbird
23. Silver Springs
24. You Make Loving Fun
25. Gold Dust Woman
26. Oh Daddy
27. The Chain
28. Over and Over
29. The Ledge - rehearsal
30. Think About Me
31. Save Me a Place
32. Sara
33. What Makes You Think You're the One
34. Storms
35. Not That Funny
36. Sisters of the Moon
37. Angel
38. That's Enough for Me -bootleg
39. Brown Eyes
40. I Know I'm Not Wrong
41. Beautiful Child
42. Tusk
43. Eyes of the World
44. Love in Store
45. Hold Me
46. Gypsy
47. Big Love
48. Seven Wonders
49. Everywhere
50. Little Lies
51. Isn't it Midnight
52. Go Insane
53. Sweet Girl
54. Temporary One
55. Bleed to Love Her
56. In The Back of My Mind
57. Save Me
58. Love is Dangerous
59. When the Sun Goes Down
60. Stand Back
61. Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You
62. Say You Will
63. Goodbye Baby
64. Running Through the Garden
65. What's the World Coming To
66. Come
67. Say Goodbye
68. Peacekeeper
69. My Little Demon
70. Sad Angel
71. Oh Well
72. Stop Messing Around
73. I Loved Another Woman

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I've been playing around with this, and I've noticed that Stevie's songs tend to be pretty long. While those performances were pretty epic during the shows, it becomes a logistical nightmare when putting together an album like this, since each side of an album should be 22 minutes at most (although they certainly went over a few times on this one). It always appears like she's getting the shaft whenever I put something together, even though she's getting the same amount of album time. I can get like six or seven of Lindsey's songs in the same space as four of Stevie's.

That's what they said.

Michele

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

I'd also include the songs performed with the Time band, but I can't remember what they played.

Blow By Blow
Dreamin' The Dream
The Bigger The Love
Only You Know & I Know
Tear It Up
Imagine

[gssmith]

The album is great the way it is. You can not fit everything on it. I still listen to it and the Dance a lot. More than the expanded Rumours live disc, 1982 live cd from the DVD, and especially 1987's live cd from that DVD, and 2004's live cd.
Each one has some gems though

The Chain on the live Rumours disc is kind of lame. Love the 1982 version!!