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Old 01-16-2023, 09:16 PM
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Do you think Jackson ripped off Stevie's song intro? If he did, to my ear he nonetheless took it to a better place and made a much better song out of it.

"Wild Heart": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4iCl9f9vK4
"Black And White": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CuAQOagYeY
Wow, that really is similar. Just more mellow in feeling. Stevie has done her share of lifting elements from other people's songs, so I doubt she minded. I think very few songs are completely original. Maybe none. Everyone derives inspiration from everything that came before.
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No way it was an accident. He lifted it.

But he knew what to do next: Change tempo and the entire feel of the song. Stevie just stayed in the same place.
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Wow, that really is similar. Just more mellow in feeling. Stevie has done her share of lifting elements from other people's songs, so I doubt she minded. I think very few songs are completely original. Maybe none. Everyone derives inspiration from everything that came before.
Reminds me less of TWH than Eo17 reminds me of that Police song.
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Jackson has been much more consistent in his songwriting . Stevie had about ten good years and then...
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Jackson has been much more consistent in his songwriting . Stevie had about ten good years and then...
Bella Donna is pure gold. WH is great. The end.
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Wild Heart frustrates me. Its a fine album but it could have been stellar. It seems Jimmy was steering for a more commercial type of album. Just a few tweaks and the album could have been better. The title track wonders. The reissue version is faster and rocks. There should have been a better combination of the two. I would replace Gate and Garden with All The Beautiful Worlds. I would have dropped Nightbird for Garbo. The album needed some acoustic guitar. I would also have used the outtake version of Sable on Blonde but shortened the ending.

Wild Heart - different recording
Nothing Ever Changes
All the beautiful worlds
I Will Run To you
Enchanted

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For Bella Donna Jimmy had Benmont Tench go through Stevie's material and search for what he liked best. Benmont discusses the assignment from 38:40-40:53 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hswqQUUhVYs

If he didn't, Jimmy should have again recruited Benmont (or someone similar) to do the same job on The Wild Heart.

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For Bella Donna Jimmy had Benmont Tench go through Stevie's material and search for what he liked best. Benmont discusses the assignment from 38:40-40:53 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hswqQUUhVYs

If he didn't, Jimmy should have again recruited Benmont (or someone similar) to do the same job on The Wild Heart.
Yes. This is a great interview with Benmont. The guys interviewing him clearly aren't Stevie fans and almost start to go snarky about him, but realize he really likes her and catch themselves before the go too far.

On WH Stevie's ego (and drug use) had started to creep into her judgement... and instead of trusting Jimmy the way she did on BD she began to think she knew better
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