This forum is such a relief

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

About the spam threads, we Moderators try our best but the site is old now, the web isn't the same as two decades ago, and as you can imagine we also have other commitments during the day.

I don't think any of us criticize the moderators. There's no doubt that this place isn't the same since Michele left, like it or not.

Its an old site, that is out of date, incomplete and not going anywhere fast. It needs an owner with resources and a commitment to recording the legacy of Fleetwood Mac. At this late stage in the game I can't see that happening.

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by chriskisn

Realistically though, this is a new line-up, a post Rumours lineup. If Billy and Rick and Dave and Bekka were post-Rumours then Neil and Mike should be too.

There is absolutely nothing different now than there was in 1987.

Yes, but obviously this isn't the Post Rumours band at all since neither Mike nor Neil have anything to do with Billy, Rick, Dave and Becca, so idealistically it would need a forum of its own, but realistically on an old site like this one it's impossible without overpowering anything.
You also have to think that any sub-forum of this site in reality was meant to talk in a retrospective manner about its subject (saving Chit Chat I guess), so even the Rumours forum is actually about the band from 1975 to 1987. By the time The Dance came noone expected a reunion so from that point onward the Rumours board has been used for every subsequent output for convenience.

Originally Posted by chriskisn

I don't think any of us criticize the moderators. There's no doubt that this place isn't the same since Michele left, like it or not.

Its an old site, that is out of date, incomplete and not going anywhere fast. It needs an owner with resources and a commitment to recording the legacy of Fleetwood Mac. At this late stage in the game I can't see that happening.

Michele hasn't left, she just sold the site, so she's not the owner anymore and doesn't have all the economical burdens that come with that, but she's still the administrator.

[Missy]

I'm feeling confused - but I guess many of us are because it just is confusing after awhile with all the various incarnations this band has been through!

They're talking about this new combination with Mike and Neil as if it's a new entity, 'a brand new band', and saying that the new members are not just temporary replacements on the road, even if it's all in the initial stages right now.

There are probably many people on this board who are always going to regard 'the true Fleetwood Mac' as the five members of Rumours. (I can sympathise because there is nothing like that lineup, even though I have respect for the other lineups.)

I'm not a big Heartbreakers fan so I don't know much about Mike Campbell, but obviously he's had his own very illustrious career, as has Neil Finn - whose career I started following in the 1980s. He's a 'legend' in his own right in Oceania as a singer/songwriter, with a notable catalogue. He brings with him a long list of his own credentials.

Feeling very torn atm because I respect both Lindsey and Neil as musicians and music creators, in their own right. It feels wrong to me to pit them against each other, or try to judge between them because they're both so worthy on their own terms. As was Peter Green. I can't even go there.

Just a shame that there's bad feeling over this, which isn't very auspicious for the newcomers. The band are trying to tone it down as being a scheduling conflict, though many of the fans obviously think there's more to it.

I honestly don't think however that Neil Finn would support unfair treatment of another great artist. He believes in his craft, and has had enough success of his own that he doesn't need to do anything for money. Nor does he seem the type who would do something just for fanfare or financial reward.

Not trying to prove any point here! Just my own mixed feelings and emotions about everything atm. Sorry if I'm rambling ... take care everyone.

[MaryLiz2]

Originally Posted by Missy

I'm not a big Heartbreakers fan so I don't know much about Mike Campbell, but obviously he's had his own very illustrious career, as has Neil Finn - whose career I started following in the 1980s. He's a 'legend' in his own right in Oceania as a singer/songwriter, with a notable catalogue. He brings with him a long list of his own credentials.

Feeling very torn atm because I respect both Lindsey and Neil as musicians and music creators, in their own right. It feels wrong to me to pit them against each other, or try to judge between them because they're both so worthy on their own terms. As was Peter Green. I can't even go there.

Just a shame that there's bad feeling over this, which isn't very auspicious for the newcomers. The band are trying to tone it down as being a scheduling conflict, though many of the fans obviously think there's more to it.

I honestly don't think however that Neil Finn would support unfair treatment of another great artist. He believes in his craft, and has had enough success of his own that he doesn't need to do anything for money. Nor does he seem the type who would do something just for fanfare or financial reward.

Not trying to prove any point here! Just my own mixed feelings and emotions about everything atm. Sorry if I'm rambling ... take care everyone.

It's a shame that there's such bad feelings here and this forum community can't enjoy discussions and anticipating a tour as in years past (at least distant past...I was more of a Ledge poster back during The Dance and SYW Tours)...but I think the bad feeling is much more obvious here in this little fishbowl. I think the the public at large, if they care at all and pay attention to even know Lindsey is gone, there's been more of a "oh, that's too bad was hoping to see them all together" to a "crazy old band still crazy" reaction. People moved on and will buy tickets or won't. I expect the tour to still do well and I expect to still go and have a great time.

As for the newcomers, I've always enjoyed TP and the Heartbreakers and love Mike Campbell. In addition to his work with Tom Petty and with Stevie, he's also worked with Don Henley writing my two favorite solo Henley songs. I'm glad he's got something to do now that Tom's gone and I'm really excited to see him this tour.

I'm far less familiar with Neil Finn. Outside of Don't Dream It's Over I'm unfamiliar with his work. I really like his voice, though, and given the recent live footage of Don't Dream It's Over shown on the CBS interview it sounds like his voice is in great shape; I'm looking forward to hearing more from him and seeing how the harmonies turn out on the upcoming FM tour.

I appreciate your (and others) sharing more info on Neil for those like me who aren't very familiar with his work.

[Missy]

Someone said this elsewhere, about Stevie and Lindsey: "She's worked with him through worse times. Why, in her mid-60's, when the band is in it's final stages, would she decide to make a move now? It doesn't make sense." http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpo...45&postcount=1

That's how I feel - if they had insisted Lindsey stayed, I think she still would've gone with them. In her solo career, she gets to do what she wants. Then when she returns to FM, she's amenable to what the majority want to do.

Honestly, if it were Stevie or Christine departing, I wouldn't be getting as worked up as some others are about this happening. Or think it was end of the world.

[Missy]

Originally Posted by MaryLiz2

It's a shame that there's such bad feelings here and this forum community can't enjoy discussions and anticipating a tour as in years past (at least distant past...I was more of a Ledge poster back during The Dance and SYW Tours)...but I think the bad feeling is much more obvious here in this little fishbowl. I think the the public at large, if they care at all and pay attention to even know Lindsey is gone, there's been more of a "oh, that's too bad was hoping to see them all together" to a "crazy old band still crazy" reaction. People moved on and will buy tickets or won't. I expect the tour to still do well and I expect to still go and have a great time.

As for the newcomers, I've always enjoyed TP and the Heartbreakers and love Mike Campbell. In addition to his work with Tom Petty and with Stevie, he's also worked with Don Henley writing my two favorite solo Henley songs. I'm glad he's got something to do now that Tom's gone and I'm really excited to see him this tour.

I'm far less familiar with Neil Finn. Outside of Don't Dream It's Over I'm unfamiliar with his work. I really like his voice, though, and given the recent live footage of Don't Dream It's Over shown on the CBS interview it sounds like his voice is in great shape; I'm looking forward to hearing more from him and seeing how the harmonies turn out on the upcoming FM tour.

I appreciate your (and others) sharing more info on Neil for those like me who aren't very familiar with his work.

Ty - this weekend I think I'm gonna do a crash course in Mike Campbell!

From Neil, I also like 'One Step Ahead' and 'Message To My Girl' with Split Enz. 'You Better Be Home Soon' with Crowded House. There are many others (I don't want to go overboard)

He writes clever lyrics with very catchy hooks. Many would say he's in the top five best songwriters from this part of the world, of all time. I certainly would.

He just did a show with Mike Campbell joining for a try at 'Man Of The World'. Reviews have been very positive but we're unlikely to see footage because apparently recording is strictly not allowed at the venue.

Some people believe that Stevie was there too, though she didn't get on stage. Discussion here in Neil Finn section of a forum. (They've noticed this forum too!)

http://www.frenzforum.com/topic/neil...75276121814383

[Hawkeye]

I guarantee that once there is some actual tangible activity from this band, and by that I mean something that isn’t a news show to announce they fired Lindsey. The first concert taking place for sure will make a difference but even just one good TV performance will change many minds (not all but many) and any sort of even remotely concrete recording news will turn the vibes around immediately. Neil Finn already said today on Sirius that he thinks the band will record new music.