Mick Fleetwood doesn't think Fleetwood Mac will Reunite with Ex Members

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I'm actually hoping he's not reading any of this. It won't make him any good.

And I'm more surprised at Christine's coldness. I said many times I'm not giving a pass to any of them. It's easy to blame Mick and/or Stevie but the truth is they all remained quiet (even Campbell and Finn) and let things happen.

I actually feel kind of sorry for Christine ..she seems like a decrepit old crone who can no longer sing or play. Mick has always been a money grubbing whore who even if he is sober is a dry drunk.Stevie to give the devil her due can still hold her own live. She should have just disbanded Fleetwood Mac (which she now runs) instead of letting it come to this pathetic end.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I actually feel kind of sorry for Christine ..she seems like a decrepit old crone who can no longer sing or play. Mick has always been a money grubbing whore who even if he is sober is a dry drunk.Stevie to give the devil her due can still hold her own live. She should have just disbanded Fleetwood Mac (which she now runs) instead of letting it come to this pathetic end.

It’s all about the cash - no way she brings in solo what she can with the Fleetwood Mac moniker. But, I completely agree, Stevie can totally hold her own live still whereas it’s been very hard to cover for Christine’s lack of ability for five years now.

[sleepless child]

I was thinking the other day of when Lindsey said John told him in an email he wasn't supposed to talk to him. Really? You are all in your seventies for crying out loud. Who won't let you talk? Your mommy? So childish and immature. I really thought things had changed during The Dance. I guess that was all about the money too.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by sleepless child

I was thinking the other day of when Lindsey said John told him in an email he wasn't supposed to talk to him. Really? You are all in your seventies for crying out loud. Who won't let you talk? Your mommy? So childish and immature. I really thought things had changed during The Dance. I guess that was all about the money too.

I agree. And following the "What if" speculations, what would have happened if John and Chrstine had said they would not continue in the band without Lindsey? If all was about money, Mick and Stevie would have accepted.

But again, only they know the complete story. I'm pretty sure they have not told everything.

[Netter75]

Originally Posted by sleepless child

I really thought things had changed during The Dance. I guess that was all about the money too.

I wish I shared this view, but my impression was that pretty much everything they did after Tusk was about money and only money. Recording Mirage and Tango were reportedly MISERABLE and occurred after the solo careers were up and running. I can't imagine why they'd put themselves through that if not for money or contractural obligations relating to money. "Live" was only released because Mick was bankrupt, same goes with his tabloid autobiographies. Chris and John were confirmed conservatives (and BRITISH) so I can't imagine their reuniting for the Clinton performance was because of their passion for his campaign.

Everyone's careers were in the TANK by the time 1997 rolled around, so I'm sure The Dance (which was originally just going to be an MTV Unplugged episode) and the ensuing tour was attractive to all of them. I mean Christine was unhappy for the entire thing. I guess things (both money and personal relationships) went well enough for them to think Say You Will would be a less miserable experience (it wasn't) but you could argue a good bit of why they made that album was to ride off of the success of The Dance. Every tour after that has just been a Greatest Hits cash grab`(with the possible exception of Christine's return, I don't think that was motivated by money on her part).

As far as the solo albums, you could make an argument that Mick's albums were done out of his own weird passion but his financial issues at the time cast doubt on that. Christine was contracturally obligated to make her 1984 album, which is why she had Todd Sharp do half of it for her. In the Meantime was a passion project for sure though.

Lindsey's solo career is obviously for his love of the music, and I'd make the argument that Stevie's first two solo albums are the same way. They were vehicles for her to express herself more freely and get more of her songs out there (Jimmy Iovine's motivations are different story obvisouly). RAL is a sell out album for sure.

This isn't to say that all of these projects are just soulless cash grabs, they wouldn't have turned out as amazing as they did without all the other factors (their love of making music, wanting to express themselves creatively, playing so well off of each other etc). But I can't imagine a prime motivator other than money, why else would they make themselves so unhappy so often?

But you know what... that's okay. They're talented musicians and it's a business and it's a business I'm happy to indulge.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by Netter75

Chris and John were confirmed conservatives (and BRITISH) so I can't imagine their reuniting for the Clinton performance was because of their passion for his campaign.

Great post above. Just one thing. While John and Chris are British conservatives (her more so than he, I think) John became an American citizen (presumably by way of marriage) and WAS able to vote for Clinton. When asked if he did, he said yes.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Great post above. Just one thing. While John and Chris are British conservatives (her more so than he, I think) John became an American citizen (presumably by way of marriage) and WAS able to vote for Clinton. When asked if he did, he said yes.

John has expressed strong dislike for the Labour Party publicly for many, many years. Which Clinton? Bill in the 90s? Surprising. Do you have a link?

[jwd]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Great post above. Just one thing. While John and Chris are British conservatives (her more so than he, I think) John became an American citizen (presumably by way of marriage) and WAS able to vote for Clinton. When asked if he did, he said yes.

I voted for Clinton ONCE, too. Doesn't necessarily define who you are politically.

[singertobe]

This is what I don't get. Reading his autobiography, we learn that Mick has always liked to help give ex-members a hand in their careers. He tried to help Green, Spencer, Welch, etc. What changed?

[elle]

Originally Posted by singertobe

This is what I don't get. Reading his autobiography, we learn that Mick has always liked to help give ex-members a hand in their careers. He tried to help Green, Spencer, Welch, etc. What changed?

in his biography, Mick gets to present a picture of himself that he wants to - it may not necessarily be true.

in fact, after last year i tend to doubt any info we ever got from Mick. if he's lying this hard when sober in his 70s, how much untruths did he tell when he was high and out of it?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

in his biography, Mick gets to present a picture of himself that he wants to - it may not necessarily be true.

in fact, after last year i tend to doubt any info we ever got from Mick. if he's lying this hard when sober in his 70s, how much untruths did he tell when he was high and out of it?

I recall that when asked about Peter and Brown Eyes, Lindsey said something like he knows for sure that if Peter recorded that Mick would have given him credit. It was as if Lindsey trusted Mick, not to dishonor Peter (and, presumably, other past members).

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I recall that when asked about Peter and Brown Eyes, Lindsey said something like he knows for sure that if Peter recorded that Mick would have given him credit. It was as if Lindsey trusted Mick, not to dishonor Peter (and, presumably, other past members).

isn't Peter now credited on alternate Tusk version of Brown Eyes? guess Lindsey's foolishness in having too much trust in Mick has come back to bite him, over and over in the last year and a half.

[BigAl84]

mick also flipped his point of view about say you will being a double album, halfway through the process. Judging by what we saw on the destiny rules doc, yet again it was stevie's camp counting the beans and realizing less money would be made with a double album. Then she got Mick's ear and it was all over. Mick has always been an a$$.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by singertobe

This is what I don't get. Reading his autobiography, we learn that Mick has always liked to help give ex-members a hand in their careers. He tried to help Green, Spencer, Welch, etc. What changed?

What I don’t get from Mick is all this sudden animosity against Lindsey. Where all this comes from?

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by button-lip

What I don’t get from Mick is all this sudden animosity against Lindsey. Where all this comes from?

Short. Blonde. Chiffonny.