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Old 06-04-2025, 04:39 AM
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I think the song should have been the album opener. That really would have thrown people a curve ball. You can hear that vintage rhythm section humming with John, Mick and Chris not to mention Chris plays keyboards throughout the entire album which is something that had not happened since Mirage. Are they the Mac's best songs ever? Of course not. But these guys are so good even on their bad day can create really good music. Besides Save Me and Skies, its not poppy at all and is a throwback to much earlier Mac albums. I hate Stevie's songs and the way she was layered in her brief appearances. I order and demand all of you to play this album "back to front" 5 times today!
The Brits love this album and Oh Diane. That tells you they must know good music

One of the coolest photos of the BTM era is when the band received their platinum BTM records in the UK.
This video has the best photos of the BTM era. The photo I referenced is at 0:29
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Old 06-04-2025, 07:08 AM
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I like the song. It deserved a better video. Instead of making that ugly hybrid with Tango concert scenes, probably because some or all members didn't want to appear in a new filming, they could have made a video with the models of the cover album, inventing a story, or whatever, anything would have been better than that nonsense.




I also hate when they cut the songs, in this case they left out like 2 minutes.
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Old 06-04-2025, 01:18 PM
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The Brits love this album and Oh Diane. That tells you they must know good music
Ummm….no we don’t. I’m glad you added that laughing emoji!!!!!!!
Brits looooooove Tango. That’s the reason why BTM sold well and hit #1. Tango was massive….hit #1 3 or 4 times. People expected more of the same, but were significantly disappointed.

Oh Diane…..I can’t account for that one
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…..actually I can. There was a phase of 1950’s throw-backs around that time. Some of the biggest acts/songs were 50’s pastiches
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…..actually I can. There was a phase of 1950’s throw-backs around that time. Some of the biggest acts/songs were 50’s pastiches
Shakin' Stevens comes to mind, doesn't he, for us Brits. Perhaps "Oh Diane" isn't quite so bad when viewed in the context of the "music box" feel of Mirage. As a stand-alone, it's a tad embarrassing.

Yes, Tango was absolutely massive in the UK. I remember it being played over and over on what passed for warm summer evenings in the late eighties at university at Lancaster, despite the fact that the Mac wasn't really considered cool at the time.

It was purely Tango that bounced BTM to the top of the charts in the week of its release in the UK. It then fell down the Top 50 only marginally more slowly than a dead cat being thrown down the stairs...

https://www.officialcharts.com/album...hind-the-mask/
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Perhaps "Oh Diane" isn't quite so bad when viewed in the context of the "music box" feel of Mirage.
Yes. However I have the feeling Oh Diane would have fit better in Law and Order than Mirage.
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Shakin' Stevens comes to mind, doesn't he, for us Brits. Perhaps "Oh Diane" isn't quite so bad when viewed in the context of the "music box" feel of Mirage. As a stand-alone, it's a tad embarrassing.

Yes, Tango was absolutely massive in the UK. I remember it being played over and over on what passed for warm summer evenings in the late eighties at university at Lancaster, despite the fact that the Mac wasn't really considered cool at the time.

It was purely Tango that bounced BTM to the top of the charts in the week of its release in the UK. It then fell down the Top 50 only marginally more slowly than a dead cat being thrown down the stairs...

https://www.officialcharts.com/album...hind-the-mask/
Yes, was absolutely thinking of ‘Shakey’…..the highest selling solo artist in the UK throughout the 80’s. In the year or so preceding Mirage he had the huge hits, This Ole House, You Drive Me Crazy, Green Door and Oh Julie. Such memories they bring back.

Maybe my timelines are a tad off, but before him there was Mud, Shawoddywoddy, Alvin Stardust and The Stray Cats. Even Queen released Crazy Little Thing called Love.
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Ummm….no we don’t. I’m glad you added that laughing emoji!!!!!!!
Brits looooooove Tango. That’s the reason why BTM sold well and hit #1. Tango was massive….hit #1 3 or 4 times. People expected more of the same, but were significantly disappointed.

Oh Diane…..I can’t account for that one
You know what they say about heaven:
The Italians are the cooks
The French are the lovers
The Germans are the engineers
and the Brits are the musicians

The bests bands ever originated from the UK: The Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, The Who, Fleetwood Mac, Queen, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and AC DC (sort of). The country must know something about music
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The bests bands ever originated from the UK: The Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, The Who, Fleetwood Mac, Queen, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and AC DC (sort of). The country must know something about music
And Pink Floyd, The Police, Supertramp, Genesis, Elton, David, Eric...
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Yep
And today’s British music is s£!&
Adele, Sheeran and…..
Nothing. Absolutely nothing
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I read setlist.fm is not a 100% reliable source, but I usually check it, too.
Now when they played Sacramento on June 1 and San Jose on June 2, here is what they played:
  • Say You Love Me
  • The Chain
  • Dreams
  • Isn’t It Midnight
  • Oh Well
  • Rhiannon
  • Stop Messin’ Round
  • When the Sun Goes Down
  • Gold Dust Woman
  • I Loved Another Woman
  • Landslide
  • World Turning
  • Everywhere
  • Stand on the Rock
  • Little Lies
  • Stand Back
  • You Make Loving Fun
  • Go Your Own Way
  • Tear It Up
  • Don’t Stop
  • Songbird

They came back to Oakland in December, as everybody knows, with a set that was similar. But it had some new ones:
  • In the Back of My Mind
  • Love Is Dangerous

And none of these:
  • When the Sun Goes Down
  • I Loved Another Woman

They also moved Say You Love Me to the set midpoint.
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Now when they played Sacramento on June 1 and San Jose on June 2, here is what they played:
  • Say You Love Me
  • The Chain
  • Dreams
  • Isn’t It Midnight
  • Oh Well
  • Rhiannon
  • Stop Messin’ Round
  • When the Sun Goes Down
  • Gold Dust Woman
  • I Loved Another Woman
  • Landslide
  • World Turning
  • Everywhere
  • Stand on the Rock
  • Little Lies
  • Stand Back
  • You Make Loving Fun
  • Go Your Own Way
  • Tear It Up
  • Don’t Stop
  • Songbird

They came back to Oakland in December, as everybody knows, with a set that was similar. But it had some new ones:
  • In the Back of My Mind
  • Love Is Dangerous

And none of these:
  • When the Sun Goes Down
  • I Loved Another Woman

They also moved Say You Love Me to the set midpoint.
Say You Love Me was inserted mid-point on the dates Save Me was dropped. Cincy and Pittsburgh being at least 2 of them.
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