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Old 04-13-2020, 12:19 PM
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Default Stevie's Last Solo-Written Song

Got curious about this today - the song for which Stevie most recently wrote both music and lyrics. I think it would be "Soldier's Angel" in 2011, correct? ("Moonlight" from the same year could also kinda count I guess, but of course at least half of that song was written decades earlier.)

I checked copyright registrations and it doesn't seem she's registered anything solo-written since then either.

I wonder if "Solider's Angel" will prove to be the last song she writes on her own. There could be worse notes to end on, I guess!
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Old 04-13-2020, 12:51 PM
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Copyrights not withstanding, IDK if she's ever actually completely written a song by herself. She's always needed a Lindsey, a Jimmy, a somebody to turn her little ditty poetry into something of substance.
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Old 04-13-2020, 03:09 PM
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I lost my liner notes for the 24 Karat Gold Deluxe cd but did she write I Don't Care solo?

Or was that Campbell?

What's striking about Soldier's Angel is that she made a point of stating that had it not been for Lindsey agreeing to come to her house to play SA for her, the song wouldn't have been on IYD.

Thus to me, the song as I hear it on IYD, can't genuinely be considered a solely Stevie tune. I think she even said before the 2013 tour that it was the most BN song they ever recorded.
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I lost my liner notes for the 24 Karat Gold Deluxe cd but did she write I Don't Care solo?

Or was that Campbell?

What's striking about Soldier's Angel is that she made a point of stating that had it not been for Lindsey agreeing to come to her house to play SA for her, the song wouldn't have been on IYD.

Thus to me, the song as I hear it on IYD, can't genuinely be considered a solely Stevie tune. I think she even said before the 2013 tour that it was the most BN song they ever recorded.
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I lost my liner notes for the 24 Karat Gold Deluxe cd but did she write I Don't Care solo?

Or was that Campbell?

What's striking about Soldier's Angel is that she made a point of stating that had it not been for Lindsey agreeing to come to her house to play SA for her, the song wouldn't have been on IYD.

Thus to me, the song as I hear it on IYD, can't genuinely be considered a solely Stevie tune. I think she even said before the 2013 tour that it was the most BN song they ever recorded.
The misogyny on this board is unbearable these days.

Stevie wrote Soldier’s Angel. Lindsey was the one who was able to capture on guitar what Stevie herself did in her piano demo. I am not discounting Lindsey’s contributions as a producer to Stevie’s music but come on - if you look at most of her demos, you find the bones of what would become some of her greatest hits, even with her own rudimentary piano skills. And trying to take her lyrics away from her by referring to them as “ditties” is just offensive. Lindsey is a great guitar player and producer but Stevie is the superior lyricist by far. Their skills complement rather than diminish each other.

Also, I checked the credits and Stevie is credited as the sole I Don’t Care writer, as she is on most of 24KG. I think she said she improvised the last verse in the studio so this is probably her most recent solo-written song.
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The misogyny on this board is unbearable these days.

Stevie wrote Soldier’s Angel. Lindsey was the one who was able to capture on guitar what Stevie herself did in her piano demo. I am not discounting Lindsey’s contributions as a producer to Stevie’s music but come on - if you look at most of her demos, you find the bones of what would become some of her greatest hits, even with her own rudimentary piano skills. And trying to take her lyrics away from her by referring to them as “ditties” is just offensive. Lindsey is a great guitar player and producer but Stevie is the superior lyricist by far. Their skills complement rather than diminish each other.
"We recorded it live and did some harmonies, and then he did some little lead guitar things and it was perfect," Nicks says. "There's no other players, just me and him. Not only did we create something that's probably as Buckingham Nicks as we have been since 1973, but... I think that song really brought Lindsey and I back together. He said to me as he was leaving on that second day, 'I feel like we're closer than we've been in 30 years.' It certainly opens a lot of doors." From here: http://www.fleetwoodmac.net/fwm/inde...948&Itemid=195

Above - Stevie herself suggesting Soldier's Angel is a Buckingham Nicks creation. I'm sharing her view.

I don't see the misogyny point. You do not know what's in my head or my heart. I love Stevie. Seen her over 40 times, even bought her new 3 disc set.

This is a forum which is an exchange of opinions. There was no hate speech shared by me.

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Old 04-21-2020, 10:16 AM
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I don't see the misogyny point. You do not know what's in my head or my heart. I love Stevie. Seen her over 40 times, even bought her new 3 disc set.

This is a forum which is an exchange of opinions. There was no hate speech shared by me.

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I think a few people believe that you're not allowed to dislike Stevie without being a misogynist.
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What I don’t get....(misogyny apart)..

Some of her demos, early demos I mean, sound pretty good.
Just her and the piano BUT the tune is there.
Before anyone else has given the song a hand.
Before production.

Some of them sound really good, some better than the finished article.
So she can and did write songs.
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What I don’t get....(misogyny apart)..

Some of her demos, early demos I mean, sound pretty good.
Just her and the piano BUT the tune is there.
Before anyone else has given the song a hand.
Before production.

Some of them sound really good, some better than the finished article.
So she can and did write songs.
Agreed. I mean 24 KARAT GOLD is essentially fleshing out (slightly) the existing demos. Nicks has written some *great* songs and in many cases Buckingham's production did add to how well they turned out, and she's said so in interviews before. A few times, "Welcome to the Room, Sara" comes to mind, Buckingham's production actually was worse than the demo.
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The misogyny on this board is unbearable these days.

Stevie wrote Soldier’s Angel. Lindsey was the one who was able to capture on guitar what Stevie herself did in her piano demo. I am not discounting Lindsey’s contributions as a producer to Stevie’s music but come on - if you look at most of her demos, you find the bones of what would become some of her greatest hits, even with her own rudimentary piano skills. And trying to take her lyrics away from her by referring to them as “ditties” is just offensive. Lindsey is a great guitar player and producer but Stevie is the superior lyricist by far. Their skills complement rather than diminish each other.

Also, I checked the credits and Stevie is credited as the sole I Don’t Care writer, as she is on most of 24KG. I think she said she improvised the last verse in the studio so this is probably her most recent solo-written song.
I agree 100%. There's always been a vibe of misogynistic hostility regarding Nicks on this board, but it got way worse with Buckingham's firing.
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I agree 100%. There's always been a vibe of misogynistic hostility regarding Nicks on this board, but it got way worse with Buckingham's firing.
So if someone doesn't like a man....say, Donald Trump(or Lindsey, or any man), that means that they're misandrous?
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The misogyny on this board is unbearable these days.
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Yes it is, actually for quite some time. As is the endless ruining of threads by haters. I come here once in a while wanting to engage in a thread or two in the Stevie forum and find that it’s been hijacked by people (person, really) who for whatever reason spend their time posting on threads about people they hate.

This is not the first time that it’s been said Stevie needed a man to turn her songs into anything.

If I as a 50 year old man can see the endless misogyny, others can too. They are just choosing not to.

As for the thread topic, I hope that I Don’t Care isn’t her final solo song as I can barely tolerate it. Would be much better if Soldier’s Angel.

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So if someone doesn't like a man....say, Donald Trump(or Lindsey, or any man), that means that they're misandrous?
No it doesn’t. But you already knew that.
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No it doesn’t. But you already knew that.
Yeah, I don't even bother to engage with that one. Blocked and moved on.
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Yeah, I don't even bother to engage with that one. Blocked and moved on.
Not liking Stevie doesn't necessarily equate with being a misogynist. The lack of logic being used here is staggering...
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