Stevie Nicks Knoxville May 16 2023

[goyourownway]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Good reading comprehension!

Eat a dick.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by goyourownway

Eat a dick.

Hateful homophobe.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by goyourownway

Eat a dick.

Potty mouth.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Can you imagine, Emerson Lake And Palmer are not in the Rock and Roll Hall?

What about Randy Bachman (The Guess Who/BTO)?

These Eyes, Undone, Laughing, No Time, American Woman, No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature, Let It Roll, Let It Ride, Takin’ Care of Business, You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Why shouldn't women of color have the honor of being first inducted over a privileged white person?

What the hell are you talking about? Aretha Franklin was the first woman inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Nicks Fan

Personally I don't get why she'd rather do the oldies tour vs making new music or finishing any of the other projects she has mentioned.

Because she has nothing creative left in the tank and hasn’t for some time. Why risk alienating the audience and/or having the extended restroom break/beer run set when crowds eat up the oldies?

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

What the hell are you talking about? Aretha Franklin was the first woman inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Put your Stevie defense gear down and calm down with using the word "hell"... You need to actually read the conversations here and not do a cursory read. Stevie was inducted twice first. Tina and Diana were not. Stevie seems to be the exception, safe from any questions about privilege.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Put your Stevie defense gear down and calm down with using the word "hell"... You need to actually read the conversations here and not do a cursory read. Stevie was inducted twice first. Tina and Diana were not. Stevie seems to be the exception, safe from any questions about privilege.

Quit virtue signaling and acting like people aren’t as enlightened as you.

You diminished Tina Turner by suggesting she should have been inducted into the Hall of Fame as a solo artist before “a privileged white woman” because she’s a WOC. Gee, why not say she should have been inducted first because she was a victim of domestic violence or whatever other passively pejorative classification you can muster up? How many female Buddhists are in the Hall of Fame? Why not talk about how well spoken Tina is while you’re at it?

How about Tina should’ve been first because she was simply kick ass better?

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

How about Tina should’ve been first because she was simply kick ass better?

Yep - this. This is the only comment that should be made when comparing Tina and Stevie related to the RRHOF. Tina is far more prolific and IMO had a much more successful solo career than Stevie has. It has nothing to do with her color or Stevie’s.

[HomerMcvie]

I can't believe there hasn't been a thread for Stevie/ Billy Joel last Friday in Nashville. Did NOBODY here go? I live right across the river from the stadium, and could hear parts of the show.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Quit virtue signaling and acting like people aren’t as enlightened as you.

You diminished Tina Turner by suggesting she should have been inducted into the Hall of Fame as a solo artist before “a privileged white woman” because she’s a WOC. Gee, why not say she should have been inducted first because she was a victim of domestic violence or whatever other passively pejorative classification you can muster up? How many female Buddhists are in the Hall of Fame? Why not talk about how well spoken Tina is while you’re at it?

How about Tina should’ve been first because she was simply kick ass better?

Again you attack in your Trumpian way when you didn't read what I said to bwboy about Tina's hits, tours, and impact on artists today, as well as her paving the way for a woman to leave a band and go solo, as my main suggestion for why she should've been inducted twice before Stevie.

I didn't diminish Tina. You have said she could sing rock and play with men like Jagger and Bowie, and that was about it. You diminished Tina. And racists have problems bringing up color in discussions.

And you are no one to talk about acting more enlightened than anyone else in your glass house.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Again you attack in your Trumpian way

You can’t get through a discussion without trashy name calling and YOU’RE calling someone “Trumpian”??? Project much?

I didn't diminish Tina. You have said she could sing rock and play with men like Jagger and Bowie, and that was about it. You diminished Tina.

HOW?!? Anyone who could hold their own in that crowd had to be an amazing talent. That was the utmost compliment to Tina.

And racists have problems bringing up color in discussions.

Funny, I’m the one saying she should be considered on her own merits, not her demographic profile. But, go on with your garbage insults instead making better points.

Since you’re hellbent on bringing race into the conversation, Tina Turner’s post-Ike solo music was written and produced by white people, such as Holly Knight, who wrote songs like “Love Is a Battlefield” and “Warrior” and Rupert Hine (remember him?). She recorded mostly outside of the United States, her music wasn’t remotely urban-centric, and she was hanging out with the likes of The Rolling Stones, The Who, Bowie, Clapton, Bryan Adams, Mark Knopfler, etc. That’s what SHE wanted. Hell, she married a German, is living in Lake Zurich, Switzerland, and is now a Swiss citizen, relinquishing her American citizenship in the process.

Tina wanted the association with Jagger and Bowie much like Stevie does with Tom Petty and the Eagles. And speaking of La Nicks, unlike Tina, Diana, Cher, Pat, et.al., Stevie wrote or cowrote the vast majority her own material. So, it basically is a coin toss between better entertainer or singer-songwriter.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I can't believe there hasn't been a thread for Stevie/ Billy Joel last Friday in Nashville. Did NOBODY here go? I live right across the river from the stadium, and could hear parts of the show.

Did you put on a towel and do the crackhead dance when she sang Gold Dust Woman?

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

You can’t get through a discussion without trashy name calling and YOU’RE calling someone “Trumpian”??? Project much?


HOW?!? Anyone who could hold their own in that crowd had to be an amazing talent. That was the utmost compliment to Tina.


Funny, I’m the one saying she should be considered on her own merits, not her demographic profile. But, go on with your garbage insults instead making better points.

Since you’re hellbent on bringing race into the conversation, Tina Turner’s post-Ike solo music was written and produced by white people, such as Holly Knight, who wrote songs like “Love Is a Battlefield” and “Warrior” and Rupert Hine (remember him?). She recorded mostly outside of the United States, her music wasn’t remotely urban-centric, and she was hanging out with the likes of The Rolling Stones, The Who, Bowie, Clapton, Bryan Adams, Mark Knopfler, etc. That’s what SHE wanted. Hell, she married a German, is living in Lake Zurich, Switzerland, and is now a Swiss citizen, relinquishing her American citizenship in the process.

Tina wanted the association with Jagger and Bowie much like Stevie does with Tom Petty and the Eagles. And speaking of La Nicks, unlike Tina, Diana, Cher, Pat, et.al., Stevie wrote or cowrote the vast majority her own material. So, it basically is a coin toss between better entertainer or singer-songwriter.

You make the same argument Trump makes that someone's race should not be considered for an honor. So when President Biden pledged to nominate a judge who is a woman of color for the Supreme Court, was he passively pejorative? And it was totally uncalled for you to say I should have said Tina should be inducted for speaking well. Perhaps you think that and maybe you have white fragility.

Have you had any discussions with Black friends about Tina Turner? I am always told by my friends they consider her to be the Queen of Rock and Roll.

And you don't read posts so you wouldn't see I wrote she had more hits, bigger tours, and a huge impact on today's most popular artists such as Beyonce, Janelle Monae, and Lizzo. Do you know these artists?

You get upset anytime Stevie doesn't get praised.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

You make the same argument Trump makes that someone's race should not be considered for an honor.

Funny, I was judging her not by the color of her skin, but by the content of her achievements.

You’re the one dwelling on her race. She escaped America to get away from people who constantly brought up her race. People like you. Tina Turner didn’t want to be a “black” entertainer, she wanted to be a rock star who transcended race, creed, gender, and nationality.

So when President Biden pledged to nominate a judge who is a woman of color for the Supreme Court, was he passively pejorative?

No, we’re not going there. The HoF and SC should never in a million years be equated.

And it was totally uncalled for you to say I should have said Tina should be inducted for speaking well.

How so? The way you keep bringing up her blackness and wanting to turn that into something relevant about her as a performer is akin to an old person saying “oh, he’s well spoken.” That’s what YOU’RE doing.

Perhaps you think that and maybe you have white fragility.

Perhaps you have a severe learning disability that prevents you from having normal reading comprehension.

You get upset anytime Stevie doesn't get praised.

You mean like when I said Tina was simply kick ass better? You know, without qualifiers.