Why (Live Chicago 1974, Oct)

**jbrownsjr** · #1 03-07-2022, 08:55 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-rFlp5dETA

aleuzzi · #2 03-07-2022, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-rFlp5dETA

Wow, thanks! Her voice is pitch-perfect but huskier than usual in this performance. I have always preferred the 1974 versions of Why to the BN-era ones. With Welch, she was simulating the arrangement from the album, and he provided really effective lead guitar. The BN-era versions have nice harmonies but the country-tinged arrangement, while pretty, is less distinctive than the original song.

**jbrownsjr** · #3 03-07-2022, 09:46 AM

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Wow, thanks! Her voice is pitch-perfect but huskier thank usual in this performance. I have always preferred the 1974 versions of Why to the BN-era ones. With Welch, she was simulating the arrangement from the album, and he provided really effective lead guitar. The BN-era versions have nice harmonies but the country-tinged arrangement, while pretty, is less distinctive than the original song.

I don't like the BN versions either. The Welch live era songs have more depth and layers. I did like Bob's harmony on this.

Macfan4life · #4 03-07-2022, 12:31 PM

This would be the Heroes tour?
Timestamp: 2 months before the famous studio live concert? and just a little longer before the famous Texas Taco margarita night

aleuzzi · #5 03-07-2022, 12:58 PM

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I don't like the BN versions either. The Welch live era songs have more depth and layers. I did like Bob's harmony on this.

Agreed. And the Sausalito “Believe Me” kills in comparison to that version played live in 76 or 77.

**jbrownsjr** · #6 03-07-2022, 07:02 PM

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Agreed. And the Sausalito “Believe Me” kills in comparison to that version played live in 76 or 77.

Oh, God yes. Even her Spare Me's are better in the Welch era. Hypnotized Too! Much prefer Welch/McVie.

On Ice · #7 03-07-2022, 08:56 PM

The live music from the Welch Mc Vie era that has surfaced including the remastered CD with the box set, is a testament to how great these two were together. the music and performances are simply outstanding. It is at least on par with Mc Vie's collaborations with Lindsey.

SteveMacD · #8 03-09-2022, 12:20 AM

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I don't like the BN versions either. The Welch live era songs have more depth and layers. I did like Bob's harmony on this.

I think the high harmony on this is Doug Graves, because it doesn't sound like the Record Plant version.

As with "Spare Me A Little," I thought the BN version got a little...Melrose Place? If that makes sense. Like, too safe, bordering on bland, but not altogether bad.

The BN version of "Believe Me" was horrible. It just plodded along, making me wish it was over. The best was the Record Plant version, which blows away every other version, followed by the Midnight Special version. The Record Plant version is a power pop classic, or at least should have been. I always put it on my power pop comps and people are blown away when they find out who it was.

aleuzzi · #9 03-09-2022, 01:10 AM

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I think the high harmony on this is Doug Graves, because it doesn't sound like the Record Plant version.

As with "Spare Me A Little," I thought the BN version got a little...Melrose Place? If that makes sense. Like, too safe, bordering on bland, but not altogether bad.

The BN version of "Believe Me" was horrible. It just plodded along, making me wish it was over. The best was the Record Plant version, which blows away every other version, followed by the Midnight Special version. The Record Plant version is a power pop classic, or at least should have been. I always put it on my power pop comps and people are blown away when they find out who it was.

I agree about the Record Plant “Believe Me.” It’s so hot, miles better than the solid album version. Bobby Hunt’s organ is a standout, but even without it the track would have burned.

**jbrownsjr** · #10 03-09-2022, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I think the high harmony on this is Doug Graves, because it doesn't sound like the Record Plant version.

As with "Spare Me A Little," I thought the BN version got a little...Melrose Place? If that makes sense. Like, too safe, bordering on bland, but not altogether bad.

The BN version of "Believe Me" was horrible. It just plodded along, making me wish it was over. The best was the Record Plant version, which blows away every other version, followed by the Midnight Special version. The Record Plant version is a power pop classic, or at least should have been. I always put it on my power pop comps and people are blown away when they find out who it was.

I love that there is even a Midnight Special to watch. That also indicates to me that they did have a fan base and folks did know who they were at that time. They definitely were much more widely known than B/N. (USA wise) Christine and Bob really carry the band well as leads.

I believe you on the high harmony because I felt it didn't sound like Welch.

SteveMacD · #11 03-11-2022, 03:44 AM

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I love that there is even a Midnight Special to watch. That also indicates to me that they did have a fan base and folks did know who they were at that time. They definitely were much more widely known than B/N. (USA wise) Christine and Bob really carry the band well as leads.

Think of it this way: Fleetwood Mac with Bob Welch sold at least twice as many albums as Wilco.

Martin Birch is the same producer that made “Smoke On The Water” and “Highway Star” around the same time, and Zep IV (Rock & Roll, Stairway To Heaven) was recorded on the Rolling Stone Mobile Unit.