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Old 11-22-2022, 01:51 PM
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Question The gold records

Some of my favorite FM albums have not turned platinum or have been the least commercial successful.

1980 Live Album
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Mystery To Me
Behind the Mask
Say You Will

Its interesting because albums like Penguin and Bare Trees turned platinum but Mystery To Me and Heroes never did come close. Why do you think that is?
IMHO the band got better and better each album before Stevie and Lindsey and each album also charted better yet those are still not platinum.

I did a little research for this thread and sales figures are all over the place because some of them count international sales. I apologize if my quick research is wrong.

My favorite FM albums are the ones that sold 4 million or less and that would include Tusk, Mirage and the ones I mentioned already. I did not count the EP or other stuff prior to 1970.

Tango which is the band's second biggest seller is one of my least favorite albums.
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I like Behind The Mask and even TIME as much as Tango. Tango is just too plastic for me. I love Mirage leaps and bounds more than Tango.
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Okay so, as of 2016, these were the sales figures for FM’s studio records:

1968 Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac -
1,600,000
1968 Mr. Wonderful - 1,100,000
1969 Then Play On - 2,000,000
1970 Kiln House - 800,000
1971 Future Games - 800,000
1972 Bare Trees - 1,850,000
1973 Penguin - 700,000
1973 Mystery To Me - 1,600,000
1974 Heroes Are Hard To Find - 1,300,000
1975 Fleetwood Mac - 9,400,000
1977 Rumours - 35,500,000
1979 Tusk - 6,600,000
1982 Mirage - 5,500,000
1987 Tango In The Night - 11,300,000
1990 Behind The Mask - 2,750,000
1995 Time - 150,000
2003 Say You Will - 1,600,000

It appears PENGUIN did not outsell MYSTERY or HEROES.

Info found here: https://chartmasters.org/2016/10/csp...y-analysis/19/

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And one other source says, as of 2005, the US sales alone for LIVE (1981) and THE DANCE (1997) were:

Live Albums
1980 1981 Live - 500,000
1997 2000 The Dance - 5,000,000 - 4,400,000

I imagine they are higher now.

https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...-sales-history
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And one other source says, as of 2005, the US sales alone for LIVE (1981) and THE DANCE (1997) were:

Live Albums
1980 1981 Live - 500,000
1997 2000 The Dance - 5,000,000 - 4,400,000

I imagine they are higher now.

https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...-sales-history
Interesting, I saw that site but most others were not that generous. Wikipedia lists Mystery To Me, Say You Will, BTM, and others Gold.
I read that when Fleetwood Mac came to the states, their albums sold a consistent 250,000 copies each. When the band got extremely successful, the early albums started to creep up in sales. Bare Trees was certified platinum in 1988 (maybe because of Sentimental Lady?). On other sites I saw Penguin also was platinum. But Mystery To Me, Future Games, and Heroes never got that status.
Its strange that in today's internet age its hard to get official figures. For example you cant find sales figures for Chris's 1984 solo album. In 1984 it was not even gold and I wanted to find out if it ever achieved gold status.

In the UK BTM was #1 and went platinum there so that clouds the sales figures in the USA on some sites.
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Okay so, as of 2016, these were the sales figures for FM’s studio records:

1968 Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac -
1,600,000
1968 Mr. Wonderful - 1,100,000
1969 Then Play On - 2,000,000
1970 Kiln House - 800,000
1971 Future Games - 800,000
1972 Bare Trees - 1,850,000
1973 Penguin - 700,000
1973 Mystery To Me - 1,600,000
1974 Heroes Are Hard To Find - 1,300,000
1975 Fleetwood Mac - 9,400,000
1977 Rumours - 35,500,000
1979 Tusk - 6,600,000
1982 Mirage - 5,500,000
1987 Tango In The Night - 11,300,000
1990 Behind The Mask - 2,750,000
1995 Time - 150,000
2003 Say You Will - 1,600,000


It appears PENGUIN did not outsell MYSTERY or HEROES.

Info found here: https://chartmasters.org/2016/10/csp...y-analysis/19/
This looks right to me. I saw something similar to this a few years ago.
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This looks right to me. I saw something similar to this a few years ago.
But can we believe ANY of the charts, because they all have different numbers.
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