Mick is sick 10 year anniversary

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I wanted more about the BTM era but it sort of was glossed over.

And that was the only thing I’d be interested about that second book. Stories about BTM and Time. But since he overlooked them, it is not worth it. Did he talk about the sessions with Lindsey for his solo album? Those who “It was weird, actually, and that brought us to this point”.

I also have that 1992 “coffee table book”, My Twenty-five years in Fleetwood Mac. Cool pictures. It does mention C&S departure, but the reason behind it, which he describes, I think, again, it is not very close to the truth, especially about Stevie. I think Christine did seek peace and quiet, but I understand that she was also bothered by the first book, or so I read.

That summer’s series of Euro shows also saw both Chris and Stevie announce in mid tour that they would be leaving the band. Both women were wealthy and famous, and neither felt like continuing the pressure and the pace that went along with life in Fleetwood Mac. The two ladies reached this decision together, although both indicated they would continue to record with the band in the future.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

And that was the only thing I’d be interested about that second book. Stories about BTM and Time. But since he overlooked them, it is not worth it. Did he talk about the sessions with Lindsey for his solo album? Those who “It was weird, actually, and that brought us to this point”.

I also have that 1992 “coffee table book”, My Twenty-five years in Fleetwood Mac. Cool pictures. It does mention C&S departure, but the reason behind it, which he describes, I think, again, it is not very close to the truth, especially about Stevie. I think Christine did seek peace and quiet, but I understand that she was also bothered by the first book, or so I read.

That summer’s series of Euro shows also saw both Chris and Stevie announce in mid tour that they would be leaving the band. Both women were wealthy and famous, and neither felt like continuing the pressure and the pace that went along with life in Fleetwood Mac. The two ladies reached this decision together, although both indicated they would continue to record with the band in the future.

The book had no impact on me and was not an enjoyable read so I can't remember much. Much of the book is his early life and his relationships. He does write about Time but like much of the other music stuff it goes fast. Like you I wanted so much more about BTM and juicy details about the album, Stevie, the disappointment, etc. NOTHING. I think he just mentioned that Billy was his drinking partner back then. I think he does mention about him buying drugs in Lindsey's driveway during Tango too. My hunch is the making of Rumours and other albums have been documented to death. He does not repeat anything he covered in his first book. He does not even fill in the gaps. When I got the book I was hoping it would pick up where the other one left off. He talks about Jenny, his kids, etc. As I mentioned earlier it seems like a therapeutic book of sorts portraying everyone he has wronged in the most positive light.
Since his book was released Bekka came out with how she was fired from Fleetwood Mac and what a jerk Mick was. NOTHING about that in his book. He could have at least given his side of the story or something. Its lots of words that only mean something to him. If someone was not a Fleetwood Mac fan they could never finish the book its so boring. I really had to force myself to finish it. And I can't even remember much of what was in it. No joke.

[WalkAThinLine.]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I could be wrong because its been so long since I've read it but I think the only revelation in the book is about regretting him and John continuing on through the Time era. That's it. In that giant book it was the only thing new revealed other than his glossy propping up those he wronged in the past.

I found his second book to be fine enough. He did mention that Christine expressed interest in recording some songs on Say You Will, but Lindsey shot that idea down as she was unwilling to tour.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine.

I found his second book to be fine enough. He did mention that Christine expressed interest in recording some songs on Say You Will, but Lindsey shot that idea down as she was unwilling to tour.

Although I hate Lindsey's decision, it's because Christine WAS FM, and had the most hits. How do you tour to support an album, when your LEAD SINGER of your hit is absent?

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Although I hate Lindsey's decision, it's because Christine WAS FM, and had the most hits. How do you tour to support an album, when your LEAD SINGER of your hit is absent?

I wonder how high a Christine lead vocal single would have charted in 2003.

Also, FM was promoting SYW with live TV performances too. Would Christine have played at those Today Show and Tonight Show performances in 03?

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Although I hate Lindsey's decision, it's because Christine WAS FM, and had the most hits. How do you tour to support an album, when your LEAD SINGER of your hit is absent?

John had the same view in his Q&A about that-- he said he didn't see the point of her being involved if she couldn't promote the project. maybe that was just the mentality of old timer rock and rollers? like 'how can you be on an album if you're not gonna tour with us?' it must have seemed a weird concept. but i wonder also how high a single by chris would have charted.

--Lis

[WalkAThinLine.]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I wonder how high a Christine lead vocal single would have charted in 2003.

Perhaps higher than #80 on the Billboard Hot 100.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

John had the same view in his Q&A about that-- he said he didn't see the point of her being involved if she couldn't promote the project. maybe that was just the mentality of old timer rock and rollers? like 'how can you be on an album if you're not gonna tour with us?' it must have seemed a weird concept.

Mick and John already tried the Christine’s still in the band but doesn’t tour anymore thing once before (sort of) and it didn’t work.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Although I hate Lindsey's decision, it's because Christine WAS FM, and had the most hits. How do you tour to support an album, when your LEAD SINGER of your hit is absent?

I do agree with you 100%, but it still bothers me that Lindsey left them just before the Tango tour was due to start. It would have been better if he hadn't agreed to participate in the album. The fact that his songs weren't the biggest hits from Tango in the Night it didn't ease the impact of not going with them on the tour. He could do it, just for a few weeks, as he initially agreed to do.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine.

I found his second book to be fine enough. He did mention that Christine expressed interest in recording some songs on Say You Will, but Lindsey shot that idea down as she was unwilling to tour.

Yes but Lindsey revealed that himself way before Mick's book during SYW process. While we don't like the decision I can understand Lindsey's concern at the time. I am paraphrasing Lindsey but he said something like it would be confusing to have band members come and go having one foot in and one foot out of the band. He was concerned people would expect Christine to be there on the tour

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I do agree with you 100%, but it still bothers me that Lindsey left them just before the Tango tour was due to start. It would have been better if he hadn't agreed to participate in the album. The fact that his songs weren't the biggest hits from Tango in the Night it didn't ease the impact of not going with them on the tour. He could do it, just for a few weeks, as he initially agreed to do.

Lindsey had the lead single and second biggest hit from Tango. Its not a favorite of mine but his slick production and in the moment freshness sound is what made Tango a success. It was a great launching pad for the new era. Imagine if BTM was the long awaited Tango replacement. The band would have ended. The strength of Tango and the tour gave the band the energy to do songs for the Greatest Hits album and BTM. Long story short is Lindsey's Tango extended the life of Fleetwood Mac. It was the last time the Mac had commercial charting hits from an album.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I wonder how high a Christine lead vocal single would have charted in 2003.

Also, FM was promoting SYW with live TV performances too. Would Christine have played at those Today Show and Tonight Show performances in 03?

Just to compare, 2002 Rolling Stones' Don't Stop didn't reach the top ten, or so I read, except in Croatia. It just did reach the US Adult Alternative Songs top ten.

But even if Chris singles had reached just #99, I had loved an In The Meantime Say You Will album.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Just to compare, 2002 Rolling Stones' Don't Stop didn't reach the top ten, or so I read, except in Croatia. It just did reach the US Adult Alternative Songs top ten.

But even if Chris singles had reached just #99, I had loved an In The Meantime Say You Will album.

can't say I disagree on that

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Just to compare, 2002 Rolling Stones' Don't Stop didn't reach the top ten, or so I read, except in Croatia. It just did reach the US Adult Alternative Songs top ten.

But even if Chris singles had reached just #99, I had loved an In The Meantime Say You Will album.

In the UK I think Christine would’ve had a top 20 hit. Even with The Stones’ full new album in 2005, their singles didn’t chart on the Hot 100 and they played the Super Bowl Halftime. McCartney didn’t chart around 02/03 either. And when Eagles released their new album in 2007, their single How Long was everywhere and that charted lower than Peacekeeper did.
I don’t know how Say You Will the single didn’t chart - that is a supermarket favorite and is one of Stevie’s most bubblegum pop songs. Perhaps it’s when you reach 50, you can’t chart on the Hot 100 unless you’re Cher or Madonna!

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

And when Eagles released their new album in 2007, their single How Long was everywhere and that charted lower than Peacekeeper did.

Are you sure about that? I mean, the ALBUM debuted at #1.

And let's face it, FM has always been in second place behind the Eagles.