Albums ranked worst to best

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Lindsey is shaking his head how you use your Say You Will CD to level the bed. You know he put blood, sweat, and tears into that thing. Silver Girl wants to break free.

Shame!

The tracking order is wrong. The opening tune is garbage to introduce the new line up. I do like some of Stevie's songs (Illume is wonderful, love the guitar sound) . I don't like her getting more and more nasal. I do love some of Lindsey's writing and most of his songs.
But as an album, face it.. it doesn't flow like a BuckVie, or have that Tusk weirdness that makes it work. It doesn't have that sparkle of even Tango which flows so beautiful (until you know who ruins it).

Time has great songs, love the opening number, but the production is terrible and inconsistent. The running order is garbage as well.

[aleuzzi]

I make a distinction between tiers of excellence and personal favorites. Naturally, these categories often overlap (as with the white album in tier one or Bare Trees in tier two). But I list Then Play On and Blues Jam at Chess in the first tier, whereas I personally enjoy and prefer listening to most of Future Games and much of Penguin to those records.

Excellence and comparative mediocrity, in my opinion, have to be considered independent of my personal taste.

But, damn, Otis Span’s voice and playing is enough to give me goosebumps!

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

The tracking order is wrong. The opening tune is garbage to introduce the new line up. I do like some of Stevie's songs (Illume is wonderful, love the guitar sound) . I don't like her getting more and more nasal. I do love some of Lindsey's writing and most of his songs.
But as an album, face it.. it doesn't flow like a BuckVie, or have that Tusk weirdness that makes it work. It doesn't have that sparkle of even Tango which flows so beautiful (until you know who ruins it).

Time has great songs, love the opening number, but the production is terrible and inconsistent. The running order is garbage as well.

I love What's The World Coming To, even though I can't stand the album. It's too f*cking LOOOONNNNGGGG, with too many snoozers.

This man's obsession with double albums while we're living in a "single downloads" world has dated his effectiveness as a producer. Brevity and the ability to self edit are gifts he seems to have lost.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I love What's The World Coming To, even though I can't stand the album. It's too f*cking LOOOONNNNGGGG, with too many snoozers.

This man's obsession with double albums while we're living in a "single downloads" world has dated his effectiveness as a producer. Brevity and the ability to self edit are gifts he seems to have lost.

So you would have said no to a double Buck/Vie album? Let the man produce and create. Lindsey was at his best on double albums. He calls himself a painter. You want him to paint only a half Mona Lisa?
Many of the same elements on Tusk are on Say You Will. People say SYW sounds cold. That's what they say about Tusk too on many songs.
Surely SYW would have been better with a few less songs, but I am glad they were not cut because I appreciate them.
I think I donated my Time cassette to a charity even though it has one awesome song. (Yes, I was still buying cassettes in 1995)

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

So you would have said no to a double Buck/Vie album? Let the man produce and create. Lindsey was at his best on double albums. He calls himself a painter. You want him to paint only a half Mona Lisa?
Many of the same elements on Tusk are on Say You Will. People say SYW sounds cold. That's what they say about Tusk too on many songs.
Surely SYW would have been better with a few less songs, but I am glad they were not cut because I appreciate them.
I think I donated my Time cassette to a charity even though it has one awesome song. (Yes, I was still buying cassettes in 1995)

I would have accepted a double BuckVie, but would have rather they left if as it is. Releasing every clunker ISN'T a good thing. Some turds can't be polished.

Cut the Silver Girls of the world, and give us a nice 35 minute album. The casual listener will especially appreciate it, and that will most likely be reflected in sales. Blathering on and on(including the Silver Girls) because you don't know when to shut up(are you listening, $tevie?) isn't a gift.

[jbrownsjr]

I agree with Homer. The Tusk double album was a fantastic response to Rumours. The Awkward discombobulation, and flipping of everything on it's head is/was perfection. 4 million copies in 1979, very impressive for a double album.

Trying to repeat that direction for the sake of moving left of center, in 2003 was maybe, not so perfect.
A nice try if you will. But the material didn't translate this time. Plus, you don't have a Christine McVie counterpoint. That counterpoint served very well for Tusk (3 different singers/writers in this strange Tusk World.) It's Fleetwood Mac!

This album, SYW, has very little identity, it also has some very odd production choices, and a really strange and random running order. Plus, a lead singer that sounds like a chipmunk through a telephone.
Then, the title track is even more of an attempt to sound like something rather than create something. This album would have been an amazing LB solo album. I wish it were.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I agree with Homer. The Tusk double album was a fantastic response to Rumours. The Awkward discombobulation, and flipping of everything on it's head is/was perfection. 4 million copies in 1979, very impressive for a double album.

Trying to repeat that direction for the sake of moving left of center, in 2003 was maybe, not so perfect.
A nice try if you will. But the material didn't translate this time. Plus, you don't have a Christine McVie counterpoint. That counterpoint served very well for Tusk (3 different singers/writers in this strange Tusk World.) It's Fleetwood Mac!

This album, SYW, has very little identity, it also has some very odd production choices, and a really strange and random running order. Plus, a lead singer that sounds like a chipmunk through a telephone.
Then the title track is even more of an attempt to sound like something rather than create something. This album would have been an amazing LB solo album. I wish it were.

Take a deep breath....
Try not to stare at the stairs....
Close your eyes softly....
then
Release your inner Silver Girl

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

This album, SYW, has very little identity, it also has some very odd production choices

For a real Fleetwood Mac identity, I've already said it should be the Rumours lineup, that's just my personal opinion. But besides that, I think SYW would have come closer to the FM identity if Lindsey had produced it with Richard Dashut (and better + Ken Caillat). But hey things change over time.