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Old 09-16-2023, 10:01 AM
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Thank you so much for the link! That is a much better version of Jane. Youíre right, it brings HAEWAFY to mind, and thatís a compliment. I read in the comment section that the only time Stevie performed Jane live, she got emotional and Sara Fleetwood had to finish the song, and Stevie had the audio and video destroyed. Thatís too bad, and I wonder if Sara was allowed to keep a copy, since she finished the song. Would have been nice for her resume LOL!

Unconditional Love cheesy? I cannot deny that, and what can I say- I love cheese! I think Stevieís vocals are great, but the backup vocals are too, I donít know, pronounced for me. The way they sing ďUn-con-dit-ion-al loveĒ is very distracting and does kind of make it sound like a parody. But it is still so much better than Everyday! She sounds so flat on that song, and it was clearly a deliberate decision on her part to sing it that way.
I think this is the version where she got emotional. This was recorded just as the Whole Lotta Trouble tour ended. Its ok but very lethargic. Klonopin was killing her. But I still like the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qveKi3kwSUk
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Old 09-16-2023, 12:25 PM
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I think this is the version where she got emotional. This was recorded just as the Whole Lotta Trouble tour ended. Its ok but very lethargic. Klonopin was killing her. But I still like the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qveKi3kwSUk
For me, it's just not a good song, no matter how you slice it.. . It always makes me feel slightly embarrassed for her. I appreciate her idea, but the execution of it is terrible (ymmv). I've said it a lot, but she's a writer who needs an editor but refuses to accept that. Her ideas need help to be shaped into viable recordings; she's too emotionally attached to specific words a lot of the time....(and she often overuses the same word in a song until it dilutes the meaning and impact). Mabel Normand is another train wreck of a song lyrically but some body shaped it musically into more of a rocker which semi-helps it; Blue Lamp is a terrible song as a song, but Jimmy really worked the arrangement and made it sorta listenable.... but this one, neither arrangement works....this shoulda stayed in the attic.

The pics of her with Joe in that video remind me of the story his then-girlfriend wrote about how Stevie would show up at their house and want to hang with Joe and play him stuff she was writing through all hours of the night, totally disregarding that he was with his new partner and that they were giving clear signals they wanted to go to bed and she should leave.... drugs, man.
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Stevie and Waddy had a falling out for several years at one point, and then they made up and he was back. I don't recall the timing of that, and whether it related to his legal issues, or fallout from an affair they supposedly had had on the road (big surprise).... but he was gone from her "scene" for a block of time
From what I recall he wasn't in her band from 91-2001. If you watch any of her TV appearances during that time there are different guitar players playing on those shows. But then in 2001 he was back.
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I donít think Stevie removed Inspiration or Godís Garden out of retaliation. I mean, theyíre horrible songs. If she came to that decision after rehab, then rehab definitely worked! Listen to the Rain and Love is Like a River replaced Inspiration and Godís Garden, and like you said, theyíre two of her better songs on this album.

Street Angel is an odd listen for me. I canít say I love any songs on it, but there are some I do like. I can give you probably five more reasons I hate Docklands besides her use of the word laundromat LOL.

I love Unconditional Love, but absolutely can see why they scrapped making that a single. That just shows how much trouble they had deciding on which song to release first. I do recall a press release shortly before SA was released saying Blue Denim was the lead single. The fact that no video was shot for Maybe Love tells me that was a last minute decision to release it.

Wish we could see the video for Unconditional Love.
Inspiration was the best song and she removed it. It had a vibe. The album was an embarrassment.
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Old 09-18-2023, 01:34 PM
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From what I recall he wasn't in her band from 91-2001. If you watch any of her TV appearances during that time there are different guitar players playing on those shows. But then in 2001 he was back.
There was that one guy, Frank Simes. Remember Frank? Seemed decent. But I guess he was around only for the Enchanted tour.

I always thought Christopher (Chris?) Cameron was a good keyboard player. But he was around for only one tour, as well.

I think my favorite solo band of hers — besides the lineup of stars on the first two tours — was the Street Angel tour, which had Rick Vito, Liza Jane Edwards, Russ Kunkel, and somebody-or-other on bass. Also had a good keyboardist. The band sounded perfectly adjusted for levels and gain and all that. Maybe the sound guy was great on that tour. They actually sounded clearer than Fleetwood Mac did in 1990. Liza Jane sang a beautiful rendition of “Destiny” in 1994.
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I saw online that Glyn Johns released a book about his career working with various artists, which had additional links at the end of the article. One article in particular caught my eye- it said that Unconditional Love was supposed to have been the first single, and that a video had been shot for it. It also said pictures from the video shoot are in the Enchanted booklet.

It also said God’s Garden, Inspiration, and another song called I Call You Missing were removed from the album at Stevie’s request when she got out of rehab, and were replaced with Docklands, Listen to the Rain, and one or two other songs. I Call You Missing has never been heard by the public, or at least not when that article initially appeared.

Stevie also said Johns wouldn’t allow Waddy to play on Street Angel, saying he wasn’t needed. However, wasn’t the recording of SA about the same time he was charged with child pornography? If so, I figure that was more likely the reason, but I could be wrong about the timetable.

Are these well known anecdotes?
I would not say well known, but I was aware of Waddy being charged with child porn and the timeline seems similar (that part is well known I think).

Also knew that those songs (Inspiration and God's Garden) had been removed at Stevie's request - but had not heard that about I Call You Missing.

Stevie basically re-produced the album, spending two months on it after she was released from rehabilitation. She still says she isn't happy with her vocals and wishes she had got someone to re-record them as well as doing the edits she made to the music.
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There was that one guy, Frank Simes. Remember Frank? Seemed decent. But I guess he was around only for the Enchanted tour.

I always thought Christopher (Chris?) Cameron was a good keyboard player. But he was around for only one tour, as well.

I think my favorite solo band of hers ó besides the lineup of stars on the first two tours ó was the Street Angel tour, which had Rick Vito, Liza Jane Edwards, Russ Kunkel, and somebody-or-other on bass. Also had a good keyboardist. The band sounded perfectly adjusted for levels and gain and all that. Maybe the sound guy was great on that tour. They actually sounded clearer than Fleetwood Mac did in 1990. Liza Jane sang a beautiful rendition of ďDestinyĒ in 1994.
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I just mean the backup vocals that Liza Jane did on the whole tour. Are you able to find an audio for any of the cities on that tour? Here’s a quite decent one from Jones Beach, a little before I saw her in California. Listen to Sharon and Liza Jane really nail the beautiful backups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-bhY3-Jv8w

The more years that go by, the more I miss the great musicianship and singing from this tour. This tour was the true Enchanted tour.
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Hereís another nice video from the stop in Pittsburgh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRKEjsEQfAs
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There's a complete pro-shot from the Street Angel tour that's really good. I thought it was on YouTube, but not sure. I saw her twice on that tour and it was some of my favorite shows, especially the Atlanta show. Her vocals and setlist were spot on. The backdrop was a giant framed picture that the lights manipulated to be different images. At one point it was a giant dragon.
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