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Old 01-19-2022, 01:18 AM
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heh too bad you didn't include solo so i can list dreaded Trouble.

of Lindsey's FM, there are not many duds. here's my list in no particular order:

That's All for Everyone
Empire State
Family Man
What's the World Coming To?
Say Goodbye

these are also the only real LB FM duds, imo, but i know some people have strong opinion about TAFE being a masterpiece, for example.

if we are including [official] co-writes, i'd add You and I, Part II. of the unofficial co-writes, Dreams would probably be topping my list.
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Old 01-19-2022, 01:23 AM
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heh too bad you didn't include solo so i can list dreaded Trouble.

of Lindsey's FM, there are not many duds. here's my list in no particular order:

That's All for Everyone
Empire State
Family Man
What's the World Coming To?
Say Goodbye

these are also the only real LB FM duds, imo, but i know some people have strong opinion about TAFE being a masterpiece, for example.

if we are including [official] co-writes, i'd add You and I, Part II. of the unofficial co-writes, Dreams would probably be topping my list.
OMFG How did I forget this one?? Probably because it's sooooooo awful I blocked it out.

If I had to stick to just 5, then I would put Empire State on and take Family Man off.

I thought about That's All For Everyone. Lyrically it goes NOWHERE, but I'm a sucker for his cascading harmonies so I let it slide.
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Old 01-19-2022, 01:52 AM
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IDK if I can come up with 5 Lindsey songs I hate. I've always found most of his songs to at least be palatable.
But-
Murrow is horrible.
Come is the worst thing he's ever done.
Say Goodbye is meh.
Big Love ACOUSTIC- put that sh*t in a grave. Tired and worn out. Full band or let it go.

I'm stalled at 4. I like Family Man, and ADORE Empire State, for those haters.
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Old 01-19-2022, 06:54 AM
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Not That Funny
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Old 01-19-2022, 08:26 AM
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IMO Lindsey was perfect on White and Rumours- flawless everything and the songs stand the test of time. Starting with Tusk though, he somehow forgot that people have to listen to his songs and find enjoyment in them, although not all bad, his production choices left potentially good songs just hanging.

I like Save me a Place, but not keen on:

That's all for Everyone- good idea, but lyrically goes nowhere, we never get to the reason why he's concluded that's all-but the song isn't quite exactly what we needed.
That's Enough for Me- I like the idea and such but like Christine once said- "**** that's fast"- she's right, and the song is hard to keep up to as a listener.
The Ledge- this could have been a cooker of a track with sensible production and larger than life backing vocals from Stevie- a la Second Hand News- but sounds rushed and poorly executed.
Murrow Turning Over in His Grave- I dig the cool Guitar intro but once he starts singing, Murrow probably actually turned over in his grave.
Can't Go Back- I used to like it but now I don't the music box stuff is annoying and ruins what was building to be the famous trifecta of amazing songs to start an album.

Bubbling Under- most of his Tango songs border on pretentious, but are better overall than the above. If Say You Will had been a 10 song album, some of his tracks were bordering on great, had he dropped the tinny sound.
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OMFG How did I forget this one?? Probably because it's sooooooo awful I blocked it out.

If I had to stick to just 5, then I would put Empire State on and take Family Man off.

I thought about That's All For Everyone. Lyrically it goes NOWHERE, but I'm a sucker for his cascading harmonies so I let it slide.

I love the alternate version that appears on the deluxe edition.
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Without making a list, I would like to throw in my vote for Family Man.

I guess I would add WTWCT and Peacekeeper as well.

Nothing against Bleed to Love Her. There was a time when I actually loved the song, but I have enough renditions of that thing for 5 life times. It made me weary.
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Without making a list, I would like to throw in my vote for Family Man.

I guess I would add WTWCT and Peacekeeper as well.
I’m surprised at how often What’s the World Coming To was mentioned here. I actually like the song, in fact that and Peacekeeper are my two favorite Lindsey songs on Say You Will. I feel the same way about That’s All For Everyone, from Tusk.

I’d love to hear why people dislike WTWCT and TAFE.
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I’m surprised at how often What’s the World Coming To was mentioned here. I actually like the song, in fact that and Peacekeeper are my two favorite Lindsey songs on Say You Will. I feel the same way about That’s All For Everyone, from Tusk.

I’d love to hear why people dislike WTWCT and TAFE.
I never can understand that either but then the entire SYW debate will come up. I just realize I am in the minority that likes SYW and almost every song. I think WTWCT is a fantastic opener for the album. Lindsey's songs on SYW are better than his songs on Mirage and Tango.
I like the song so I cant answer your question. But then again most people here hate SYW. Its the most intricate musical album from the Mac in a very very long time yet never gets appreciated. Its too long, its too cold, its not commercial. All the same descriptions of Tusk. I think they want Big Love all the time.
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I never can understand that either but then the entire SYW debate will come up. I just realize I am in the minority that likes SYW and almost every song. I think WTWCT is a fantastic opener for the album. Lindsey's songs on SYW are better than his songs on Mirage and Tango.
I like the song so I cant answer your question. But then again most people here hate SYW. Its the most intricate musical album from the Mac in a very very long time yet never gets appreciated. Its too long, its too cold, its not commercial. All the same descriptions of Tusk. I think they want Big Love all the time.
Say You Will is my least favorite FM album, but there are 5 or 6 songs I do like. Thrown Down, Peacekeeper, Say You Will, and What’s the World Coming To are my favorites. Like you, I think WTWCT is a great opener.
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I never can understand that either but then the entire SYW debate will come up. I just realize I am in the minority that likes SYW and almost every song. I think WTWCT is a fantastic opener for the album. Lindsey's songs on SYW are better than his songs on Mirage and Tango.
I like the song so I cant answer your question. But then again most people here hate SYW. Its the most intricate musical album from the Mac in a very very long time yet never gets appreciated. Its too long, its too cold, its not commercial. All the same descriptions of Tusk. I think they want Big Love all the time.
Lindsey's songs on SYW are amazing and imho some of his best ever (interspersed with few sad dude such as dreaded WTWCT). because Lindsey's songs on SYW are so fantastic (although would have been way better and more cohesive as that solo album that never was), SYW is up there for me of the FM albums.

let's see:

1. "What's the World Coming To?" horrible
2. "Murrow Turning Over in His Grave" fantastic
3. "Illume (9-11)" droning bore
4. "Thrown Down" cheesy little pop
5. "Miranda" ok
6. "Red Rover" amazing
7. "Say You Will" cheesy little pop but love that guitar
8. "Peacekeeper" love it
9. "Come" fantastic
10. "Smile at You" ruined, angry original was fantastic
11. "Running Through the Garden" droning horribleness
12. "Silver Girl" not worth the name "song"
13. "Steal Your Heart Away" gorgeous
14. "Bleed to Love Her" gorgeous
15. "Everybody Finds Out" ok, could have been way better
16. "Destiny Rules" love the guitar parts, just amazing
17. "Say Goodbye" cheesy schmaltz
18. "Goodbye Baby" pretty

Deluxe edition bonus disc
1. "Love Minus Zero/No Limit" FANTASTIC cover
2. "Not Make Believe" horrible unlistenable droning
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I’m surprised at how often What’s the World Coming To was mentioned here. I actually like the song, in fact that and Peacekeeper are my two favorite Lindsey songs on Say You Will. I feel the same way about That’s All For Everyone, from Tusk.

I’d love to hear why people dislike WTWCT and TAFE.
I LOVE WTWCT. And Peacekeeper is good, if someone would have shot that damned bird before they hit record. The bird is Cheese City.

I hate SYW as a whole, but like about 7-8 songs.
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I LOVE WTWCT. And Peacekeeper is good, if someone would have shot that damned bird before they hit record. The bird is Cheese City.

I hate SYW as a whole, but like about 7-8 songs.
My SYW picks:

Illume
Throw Down
Red Rover
Miranda
Say Goodbye
Steal Your Heart Away
Everybody Finds Out
Destiny Rules

I prefer The Dance version of “Bleed”

Murrow is okay

The rest is dull.
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I’m surprised at how often What’s the World Coming To was mentioned here. I actually like the song, in fact that and Peacekeeper are my two favorite Lindsey songs on Say You Will. I feel the same way about That’s All For Everyone, from Tusk.

I’d love to hear why people dislike WTWCT and TAFE.
"That's All For Everyone" is one of my absolute favorite FM songs. What a brilliant sound collage. Had all (or at least more) of Tusk been like that, it would be my favorite FM album hands down AND I would better understand Lindsey acting like it is such a departure (I think he exaggerates the extent to which it is).

As for "What's The World Coming To," the music is alright but the lyrics aren't so hot – particularly the chorus "everyone's gone to the moon" (and, yes, I would say that to Bob Dylan).

My favorite song on Say You Will is "Steal Your Heart Away."

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