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Old 11-19-2022, 02:29 PM
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Benatar's career was in even more trouble than Stevie's by 1985. Her album Seven the Hard Way released at the same time as RAL barely went gold and had no hits. The musical landscape had changed dramatically since 1983. In 1983 almost no one knew who Madonna or Whitney were. Still RAL is an uneven mess with a few highlights.
Seven the Hard Way yielded the top 10 hits Sex as a Weapon and Invincible but no doubt the album was a failure but for different reasons. Pat had just had a baby and her contract was due another album and they threw something together. That is why its called Seven the hard way. Its her seventh album and it was very hard to put together with time constraints. Having said that she had 2 top hits from the album including the smash Invincible.
Pat NEVER changed her music or her style. Seven The Hard Way sold less than RAL and only went Gold which was a surprise since she was a platinum queen.
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Old 11-19-2022, 07:26 PM
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Seven the Hard Way yielded the top 10 hits Sex as a Weapon and Invincible but no doubt the album was a failure but for different reasons. Pat had just had a baby and her contract was due another album and they threw something together. That is why its called Seven the hard way. Its her seventh album and it was very hard to put together with time constraints. Having said that she had 2 top hits from the album including the smash Invincible.
Pat NEVER changed her music or her style. Seven The Hard Way sold less than RAL and only went Gold which was a surprise since she was a platinum queen.
Hate to nitpick but Invincible hit number 10 months before the album's release as it was originally on a film soundtrack .Sex as a Weapon the album's true lead single bombed at number 28 on the Billboard Hot 100. It recieved very little airplay as I recall as I was avidly listening to the radio then for new RAL songs. I agree that her album failed for different reasons. Pat as I recollect was not a drug addict.
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Old 11-19-2022, 07:50 PM
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Hate to nitpick but Invincible hit number 10 months before the album's release as it was originally on a film soundtrack .Sex as a Weapon the album's true lead single bombed at number 28 on the Billboard Hot 100. It recieved very little airplay as I recall as I was avidly listening to the radio then for new RAL songs. I agree that her album failed for different reasons. Pat as I recollect was not a drug addict.
Ah yes, Invincible was from the soundtrack to the award winning classic film the Legend of Billie Jean! Well, it may not have won any awards, but Invincible the video was played non-stop on MTV. I did like Le Bel Age, the third single, but I’m pretty sure that, like Sex as a Weapon, it didn’t chart very highly.

BombaySapphire3, I’m curious what some of your favorite Benatar songs are. I bought her 2 disc collection many many years ago, and I love it! Temporary Heroes is one of my favorites, along with Don’t Walk Away, Shadows of the Night, Everybody Lay Dowm, Everytime I Fall Back, the list goes on. I’m so glad she’s in the RARHOF.
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Old 11-19-2022, 07:58 PM
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Seven the Hard Way yielded the top 10 hits Sex as a Weapon and Invincible but no doubt the album was a failure but for different reasons. Pat had just had a baby and her contract was due another album and they threw something together. That is why its called Seven the hard way. Its her seventh album and it was very hard to put together with time constraints. Having said that she had 2 top hits from the album including the smash Invincible.
Pat NEVER changed her music or her style. Seven The Hard Way sold less than RAL and only went Gold which was a surprise since she was a platinum queen.
That was interesting about why she named her album Seven the Hard Way.

I have to disagree with you again though, Macfan4life- don’t think I’m picking on you because I’m not LOL but Pat DID change her music and style. She recorded a blues album, her album Gravity’s Rainbow sounded different from previous albums, and critics said her album Innamorata seemed inspired by Alanis Morrisette. Personally I am fine when artists change with the times, in fact that’s one way to continue to be relevant. Even though her later albums weren’t big hits, in some ways I think her material was better as she adapted to the new music trends.
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In honor of the anniversary. Here are the Ho Hos with the bad Stevie and I Cant Wait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONqEOtxA5Tw
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In honor of the anniversary. Here are the Ho Hos with the bad Stevie and I Cant Wait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONqEOtxA5Tw
Thank you for posting. I have always loved the talents of these two girls. Loved how they incorporated Nu Shoes' I Can't Wait into Stevie's version.
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Old 11-23-2022, 06:47 AM
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Thank you for posting. I have always loved the talents of these two girls. Loved how they incorporated Nu Shoes' I Can't Wait into Stevie's version.
Yes their talent is unmatched.

Its funny because Nu Shooz's I Cant Wait was on the charts the same time as Stevie's. How odd to have 2 songs with the same title on the charts. They were released almost the same week.
But wait, it gets even crazier:
The B side to Nu Shooz's I Cant Wait was "Make Up Your Mind"

You simply cant make this stuff up. Both songs had unique keyboard sound track too.

Which is all another brilliant reason the Ho Ho's put it in their set. BTW, the bad Stevie singing with the window frame is priceless.

I remember when J Geils' Band lead singer Peter Wolf went solo and his lead single was going to be Dancing in the Dark. Bruce had just released a song with that title and it was huge. So they changed the name to Lights Out. It still became a hit at #12.
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Yes their talent is unmatched.

Its funny because Nu Shooz's I Cant Wait was on the charts the same time as Stevie's. How odd to have 2 songs with the same title on the charts. They were released almost the same week.
But wait, it gets even crazier:
The B side to Nu Shooz's I Cant Wait was "Make Up Your Mind"

You simply cant make this stuff up. Both songs had unique keyboard sound track too.

Which is all another brilliant reason the Ho Ho's put it in their set. BTW, the bad Stevie singing with the window frame is priceless.

I remember when J Geils' Band lead singer Peter Wolf went solo and his lead single was going to be Dancing in the Dark. Bruce had just released a song with that title and it was huge. So they changed the name to Lights Out. It still became a hit at #12.
It happened in the summer of 1979 when ABBA and Roxy Music both had singles titled Angeleyes out at the same time in the UK where both bands were huge in those times. The DJs ended up playing the other side of the ABBA single Voulez- Vous instead and both bands ended up with top 5 hits.
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This album was a fascinating mess. A few good songs that were basically written by other people. Some atmospheric gems like Rock A Little and Has Anyone Ever Written that were sort of ruined by cryptic lyrics. But most of all, a lot of overproduced crap which signaled her end of having quality albums. She had a big head and was on drugs and you could hear her meltdown on the album.
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Still wish this album would get an expanded release.
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