Mick Interview on Rumours at 45 Years Old

[elle]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Social will say he told her what she couldn't wear, he made her feel she couldn't talk onstage, criticized her music, and was a "woman beater"

don't forget about never taking a mic off the stand. or being mr useless. or daring to criticize her tense / person in her gibberish poetry.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by elle

what are we doing here but rambling about our favorite band?

Mostly having discussions about the band, not factions of fans on other platforms.

i am bringing up here what i noticed has been recent public FM band members characterization because it adds to our discussion.

How?

yet, for some reason you are trying to shut it down and making it about me, not about characterization of FM members that's been lately building out there.

Because that’s not especially relevant.

Seriously, we’re all Fleetwood Mac fans on here and this band has given us plenty to discuss/debate without having to drag up what gets discussed on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, or whatever. What, should I start getting on blues forums to find out what blues fans are saying about any of the post-1970 lineups? Would THAT enhance discussions on here?

[elle]

social media amplification is nowadays integral part of artist marketing and advertising.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by elle

social media amplification is nowadays integral part of artist marketing and advertising.

That’s great. I’m sure their professional PR teams are on it.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by elle

don't forget about never taking a mic off the stand. or being mr useless. or daring to criticize her tense / person in her gibberish poetry.

Why didn't they fire him after Say You Will or even sooner?!

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Why didn't they fire him after Say You Will or even sooner?!

How many albums did they do with Stevie after SYW?

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

How many albums did they do with Stevie after SYW?

How many world tours did they do with Stevie after SYW?

Would you like to comment on the thread subject?

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

How many world tours did they do with Stevie after SYW?

Two in ten years, the second one with Christine possibly retuning as an undercurrent.

[elle]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

How many world tours did they do with Stevie after SYW?

after SYW came out?

2003-2004
2009
2013
2014-2015

Musicares 2018

i heard there may have been also so fakey tour in 2019 or so.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Two in ten years, the second one with Christine possibly retuning as an undercurrent.

After the album Say You Will was released, they did four tours.
SYW was a two year tour. Unleashed was a year. Live 2013 was a year. On With the Show was a year.
As The Ledgie, gldstwmn once said If Stevie could fire Lindsey, she would have fired him a million times already


Why do you think Lindsey was fired? I'd be grateful to hear. Thank you.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

After the album Say You Will was released, they did four tours.
SYW was a two year tour. Unleashed was a year. Live 2013 was a year. On With the Show was a year.

Well, I was counting the SYW tour as being part of SYW. They only did two more tours with that lineup before Christine came back, but Christine’s return was inevitable by the start of the 2013 tour. I almost went to opening night in Columbus just because it was possible by that point. I decided against it (in keeping with my “I’m done unless Christine comes back” stance).

Why do you think Lindsey was fired? I'd be grateful to hear. Thank you.

Since you asked (although I’ve been consistent on this..)

Because he was being difficult during tour negotiations and kept pushing for a solo tour, even within the context of off nights on a Fleetwood Mac tour. That album he was going to tour behind? Yeah, it was released like seven months ago. Maybe just saying “okay” and going with the flow would have behooved him? Did fighting get him anything? He forgot the equation that he and Stevie were not equals by that point.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I agree that SS doesn't belong on Rumours. The main reason being that it wasn't. I don't even like the studio version. I love the Dance version with the piano intro, the beautiful blend of the three voices, the great guitar, and the passion.

completely disagree.
The studio version is perfection.
Her voice alone....it was recorded when she was at both the height of her natural talent and her skill in employing it to its greatest effect.
On The Dance version she had already begun her descent into bellowing out her songs... far too loud and far too lacking in the subtle nuance that exists on the studio version.
The layers of guitar on the studio version are sublime and not really possible live because Lindsey has to pick ONE guitar to play live versus playing all the guitar parts in the studio.

The Dance version is a bit too sledgehammer-y for me compared to the studio version.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Since you asked (although I’ve been consistent on this..)

Because he was being difficult during tour negotiations and kept pushing for a solo tour, even within the context of off nights on a Fleetwood Mac tour.

Difficult as in hurting Stevie's feelings?


Thank you.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Difficult as in hurting Stevie's feelings?

What? Where did you get that? That wasn’t even suggested.

Difficult as in they all had agreed in principle prior to end of the 2014-15 tour that they would be doing a tour starting in 2018. By the time things were being booked, people hired, and the other principals had signed off on doing the tour, he threw a monkey wrench into the negotiations. They said no and he kept trying to come up with alternative plan that would let him release a new album before or during the Fleetwood Mac tour. Eventually, there was yet another incident and they decided to move on.

[elle]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Difficult as in hurting Stevie's feelings?

difficult as BuckVie album existence hurting her feelings.

and also difficult as possibly hurting Irvings bottom line. the guy who makes all oldies bands forget about being artists and become his touring ka-ching machines.