Democrats Say Rice Misled About Iraq War

gldstwmn · #1 01-25-2005, 11:43 PM

WASHINGTON - Senate Democrats said Tuesday that Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) lied to them, misled Americans about the Iraq (news - web sites) war or served as an apologist for Bush administration failures in Iraq, but she remained on track for confirmation as secretary of state.

Rice, who has been President Bush (news - web sites)'s national security adviser for four years, was one of the loudest voices urging war, Democrats said. She repeatedly deceived members of Congress and Americans at large about justifications for the war, said Sen. Mark Dayton (news, bio, voting record), D-Minn.

"I don't like impugning anyone's integrity, but I really don't like being lied to," Dayton said in opposing Rice's nomination on the Senate floor. "Repeatedly, flagrantly, intentionally."

Rice is expected to win confirmation on Wednesday. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., predicted that Rice would have "an overwhelming majority" of votes.

Sen. Richard Lugar (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., cautioned against "inflammatory rhetoric that is designed merely to create partisan advantage or to settle partisan scores."

Rice would succeed Colin Powell, who often found himself on the outside looking in with Bush's close circle of war and national security advisers.

By contrast, Rice is a trusted Bush loyalist. As a principal architect of the Iraq invasion and the administration's war on terrorism, she shares blame for overstating the threat posed by Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), Democrats said.

Dayton accused Rice and other Bush administration officials of "lying to Congress, lying to our committees, lying to the American people."

Politicians rarely use the word "lie," preferring some of the milder terms other Democrats used Tuesday.

"There was no reason to go to war in Iraq when we did, the way we did and for the false reasons we were given," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.

Rice is not directly responsible for intelligence failures prior to the Iraq war that overestimated Saddam's nuclear capability, said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich. "But she is responsible for her own distortions and exaggerations of the intelligence which was provided to her," Levin said.

"Dr. Rice is responsible for some of the most overblown rhetoric that the administration used to scare the American people," Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., said.

The Senate set aside most of the day Tuesday to debate the Rice nomination after Democrats revolted against a plan to confirm Rice last week, on the same day that Bush took his oath for a second term.

"We should have been done last week," Frist said. "I was disappointed that we are having to march through the debate today. But ultimately the vote will occur."

Republicans who took the floor to endorse Rice included Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., who has been a sometime critic of the Bush administration's Iraq policies.

"Dr. Rice has the intelligence, the integrity and the experience for this job. She has the president's confidence," Hagel said.

In his dealings with Rice, "she's always been candid and honest, and she listened," Hagel said.

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee on Tuesday sought to capitalize on sharp questioning of Rice during her confirmation hearings. The DSCC sent a fund-raising e-mail signed by Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., with the subject line "Taking a Stand."

"I will continue to make my voice heard on the Senate Foreign Relations committee, but in order to put the brakes on four more years of misdirection in Iraq and reckless policies at home, we need to elect more Democrats to the Senate during the 2006 midterm elections," Boxer wrote, noting her questioning of Rice. "Click here to contribute to the DSCC today."

"This disturbing letter puts to rest any doubts some may have had that this is all about politics," Rice spokesman Jim Wilkinson said.

Meanwhile, the Republican National Committee sent an e-mail to its supporters with the subject line "Meet the New Face of the Democratic Party." It portrayed Boxer as having a "left of liberal" voting record and being closely tied to the Hollywood elite. The e-mail included a link for supporters to "support the Bush agenda by becoming a team leader today."

Democrats, in the minority in Congress, often resort to delaying what they cannot defeat.

Byrd, the longest-serving Democratic senator and a student of the Constitution, insisted that his party is merely doing its duty.

"I am particularly dismayed by criticism I have read that Senate Democrats by insisting on having the opportunity to debate this nomination have somehow been engaged in nothing more substantial than petty politics or partisan delaying tactics," Byrd said, his voice rising in anger.

irishgrl · #2 01-25-2005, 11:46 PM

GIVE EM THE BYRD! (is there a smiley for THAT?)

strandinthewind · #3 01-25-2005, 11:51 PM

They were not scared to hammer her and, therefore, W during the speeches today

gldstwmn · #4 01-25-2005, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

They were not scared to hammer her and, therefore, W during the speeches today

they should hammer her. She should have been fired ages ago.

irishgrl · #5 01-25-2005, 11:55 PM

she gets the job

strandinthewind · #6 01-25-2005, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

they should hammer her. She should have been fired ages ago.

I was having this conversation with a friend this evening. I made the analogy to an employee that made such a collosal mistake and that regardless of intent, they should be canned and any business would do so as no company can afford that kind of liability. My friend wisely noted that Bush would have no clue how to run a successful business because ALL of his have failed

Hawkeye · #7 01-26-2005, 12:43 AM

I think Condi just might be the ticket to get Bush impeached. I can see her beeing W's Monica Lewinsky. Those two are so close I'd bet a small amount of money they're alreayd having an affair

tynan88 · #8 01-26-2005, 08:55 AM

Not to be racist, but I don't think Bush would go there sexually.

Tynan

SuzeQuze · #9 01-26-2005, 10:45 AM

Why this Jim Wilkinson found Boxer's fund raising letter containing this quote, "... in order to put the brakes on four more years of misdirection in Iraq and reckless policies at home, we need to elect more Democrats to the Senate during the 2006 midterm elections," disturbing is beyond me.

She was just being honest, this administration is reckless and Iraq is a nightmare. Do they really not see this? Perhaps not, because they're living in some alternate universe.

strandinthewind · #10 01-26-2005, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tynan88

Not to be racist, but I don't think Bush would go there sexually.

Tynan

True - but stranger things have happened. Look at Strom Thurmond - who, when he a HUGE racist, was having a clandestine affair with his parent's housekeeper and fathered a child through her out of wedlock - then paid hush money in the form of child support for YEARS. So, who knows.

strandinthewind · #11 01-26-2005, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Why this Jim Wilkinson found Boxer's fund raising letter containing this quote, "... in order to put the brakes on four more years of misdirection in Iraq and reckless policies at home, we need to elect more Democrats to the Senate during the 2006 midterm elections," disturbing is beyond me.

She was just being honest, this administration is reckless and Iraq is a nightmare. Do they really not see this? Perhaps not, because they're living in some alternate universe.

Maybe it was because many Democrats voted to give W the authority to go to war

and now they, as a party, are complaining about

I am not saying that I do not want more D's elected, I do

I am just profering this as a possible rationale

SuzeQuze · #12 01-26-2005, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Maybe it was because many Democrats voted to give W the authority to go to war

and now they, as a party, are complaining about

I am not saying that I do not want more D's elected, I do

I am just profering this as a possible rationale

It was a strange choice of words "disturbing". Of course she's going to say we need to get the republicans out and the democrats in in a fundraising letter, right? Duh.

amber · #13 01-26-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

True - but stranger things have happened. Look at Strom Thurmond - who, when he a HUGE racist, was having a clandestine affair with his parent's housekeeper and fathered a child through her out of wedlock - then paid hush money in the form of child support for YEARS. So, who knows.

I think he's more than likely to "go there", not that he did, But I don't think people are as "racist" when it comes to that as others may think they are...

dissention · #14 01-26-2005, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

They were not scared to hammer her and, therefore, W during the speeches today

Hehe. They didn't say jack **** until Barabara Boxer spoke up and throttled Minute Rice (along with Kennedy). Did you see the confirmation hearing last week when Obama had his turn to ask her some questions? Talk about kissing ass, my word. He did so much of it that his lips were brown.

dissention · #15 01-26-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tynan88

Not to be racist, but I don't think Bush would go there sexually.

Tynan

I disagree.

Wasn't it just last month that an article was published in the Washington Post that said they don't have to speak to each toher at all to know what each other is thinking, they just act instictively and with the nod of ahead? It also said that when they do speak, it's usually only a few words. Majority Report had a contest on their blog to see what they say to each other and they read mine on the air.