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Old 01-11-2011, 03:22 PM
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This is the information I have regarding FM in Holland 1969. Obviously they must have played longer, but this is all that has been broadcasted. Den Haag on TV, Amsterdam on radio.
I myself was there in De Doelen in Rotterdam. I do not have any vivid memories except for a long number where Mick bent over his hihat for a long time, and just kept on playing just the hihat. Must have been The Green Manalishi where Peter plays his 6-string bass. Also vague memories of a tiny fellow behind a guitar: Jeremy Spencer. I was only 18 then, and it was one of my few live concerts (really loved Pink Floyd show too). Memory fades "As the years go passing by" (Deadric Malone).
I now live in Groningen (since 1971). People I know that attended the Korenbeurs show have nice stories about how the show suddenly stopped because some dude in charge of facilities shut off the electricity because he didn't like the music and felt it was too loud.....

My favorite track? One Sided Love from Den Haag.

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HOLLAND: THE HAGUE & AMSTERDAM, 1969-02-28
(Same tour: Korenbeurs, Groningen, 1969-03-01; De Doelen, Rotterdam, 1969-03-02)
Line-up: Peter Green : guitar, vocals Danny Kirwan : guitar, vocals
Jeremy Spencer : guitar, vocals John MacVie : bass guitar
Mick Fleetwood : drums
Tracks:
The Hague (Den Haag):
01. Introduction announcement
02. One Sided Love
03. Stop Messin’ Round *
04. San-Ho-Zay *
05. Albatross *
06. Tallahassie Lassie
07. Blue Suede Shoes *
08. Teenage Darlin’ (just the bass guitar)
09. Twist And Shout
Amsterdam:
10. Introduction announcement
11. Merry Go Round *
12. One Sided Love *
13. Dust My Broom *
14. Got To Move *
15. “Green Thoughts” *
16. Sugar Mama *
17. I Can’t Hold Out *
18. Tallahassie Lassie

Comments: Live bootleg

Recording quality : B
Playing quality : B

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* tracks released on bootlegs “Live in Amsterdam” and “Roughage 69”.
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Old 01-12-2011, 01:40 AM
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This is the information I have regarding FM in Holland 1969. Obviously they must have played longer, but this is all that has been broadcasted. Den Haag on TV, Amsterdam on radio.
I myself was there in De Doelen in Rotterdam. I do not have any vivid memories except for a long number where Mick bent over his hihat for a long time, and just kept on playing just the hihat. Must have been The Green Manalishi where Peter plays his 6-string bass. Also vague memories of a tiny fellow behind a guitar: Jeremy Spencer. I was only 18 then, and it was one of my few live concerts (really loved Pink Floyd show too). Memory fades "As the years go passing by" (Deadric Malone).
I now live in Groningen (since 1971). People I know that attended the Korenbeurs show have nice stories about how the show suddenly stopped because some dude in charge of facilities shut off the electricity because he didn't like the music and felt it was too loud.....

My favorite track? One Sided Love from Den Haag.

Anyway:

HOLLAND: THE HAGUE & AMSTERDAM, 1969-02-28
(Same tour: Korenbeurs, Groningen, 1969-03-01; De Doelen, Rotterdam, 1969-03-02)
Line-up: Peter Green : guitar, vocals Danny Kirwan : guitar, vocals
Jeremy Spencer : guitar, vocals John MacVie : bass guitar
Mick Fleetwood : drums
Tracks:
The Hague (Den Haag):
01. Introduction announcement
02. One Sided Love
03. Stop Messin’ Round *
04. San-Ho-Zay *
05. Albatross *
06. Tallahassie Lassie
07. Blue Suede Shoes *
08. Teenage Darlin’ (just the bass guitar)
09. Twist And Shout
Amsterdam:
10. Introduction announcement
11. Merry Go Round *
12. One Sided Love *
13. Dust My Broom *
14. Got To Move *
15. “Green Thoughts” *
16. Sugar Mama *
17. I Can’t Hold Out *
18. Tallahassie Lassie

Comments: Live bootleg

Recording quality : B
Playing quality : B

Other
* tracks released on bootlegs “Live in Amsterdam” and “Roughage 69”.

A televised version of "San-Ho-Zay", and "Tallahassee Lassie" is enough to get angry at short minded TV producers in Holland. "One Sided Love" from Amsterdam is killer, to see it televised would make your jaw drop. Danny Kirwan's confidence dropped the longer he was with Peter Green. Those early months with FM Kirwan could belt a solo ("One Sided Love'). By Boston 2/70, Kirwan was so intimidated. You can hear the difference between the concerts. BTW I bet the song you remember with Mick Fleetwood on the Hi-Hat was "Coming Your Way". Peter Green didn't introduce "The Green Manalishi" until late '69. Maybe that was the concert you remember later in the year.

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Old 01-12-2011, 10:00 AM
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What was going on with Danny is a function of Danny. Peter was a monster player by that time. The craziness of human dynamics is that personalities mesh in so many ways that one can't see it close up.

There is a great line in an old R & B song.
"The very thing that makes you rich makes me poor"
They had a strange symbiotic relationship with each other and each contributed to the total product. Together they were so incredibly formidable. That it had side effects.........Oh Well



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Old 01-14-2011, 01:41 AM
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What was going on with Danny is a function of Danny. Peter was a monster player by that time. The craziness of human dynamics is that personalities mesh in so many ways that one can't see it close up.

There is a great line in an old R & B song.
"The very thing that makes you rich makes me poor"
They had a strange symbiotic relationship with each other and each contributed to the total product. Together they were so incredibly formidable. That it had side effects.........Oh Well
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The cog in the wheel was Jeremy Spencer. While JS wasn't an active guitarist for Peter Green songs, or songs that featured Danny Kirwan, JS played great piano for some Peter Green blues songs, and some of the Fifties songs' Peter Green sang.

Jeremy Spencer wrote a song in 1969 that was protopunk; "Somebody's Gonna Get Their Head Kicked in Tonight". It's been covered so many times by many punk bands. For that song alone, Jeremy Spencer grew beyond the blues.


Three guitarists was a crowd. That was the problem, so Peter Green left. IMHO (sorry Mr. Spencer), but the wrong guitarist left in May 1970.

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The cog in the wheel was Jeremy Spencer ...[...]
Slipkid, people just leave, it has nothing to do with right or wrong (my humble opinion)

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Old 01-16-2011, 01:39 AM
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Slipkid, people just leave, it has nothing to do with right or wrong (my humble opinion)

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What I'm trying to say is that once Danny Kirwan joined Fleetwood Mac, Jeremy's role became smaller. Jeremy logically would've been the first to leave. Peter Green came from the John Mayall/Eric Clapton school of thought that one should not stay in one place for so long. So he left first. Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green lasted longer than Cream.
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:27 PM
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Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green lasted longer than Cream.
True, and Kolors and Splinter Group lasted longer than Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green, as did Bob Welch with FM. However, I do prefer those 1967-1970 FM years.
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BTW I bet the song you remember with Mick Fleetwood on the Hi-Hat was "Coming Your Way". Peter Green didn't introduce "The Green Manalishi" until late '69. Maybe that was the concert you remember later in the year.[/QUOTE]

When I saw them play Coming your Way (if your talking about Danny's song )then Mick played it entirely on the two hanging tom toms (though with Bass drum and Foot high hat possibly !)
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