The Lighthouse: September 27, 2024

[greendaze5]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Does anyone have any thoughts on what the 4 doves and the headless angel statue symbolize?

The statue is the 'Winged Victory of Samothrace' and personifies the idea of victory/being victorious.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Suits her very well. I wish someone would make an edit of the music video with all the signs and activists cut out of it.

Me too. I'm a Trumpster but I do just like the atmosphere and whole power of this thing even though she is just gloming onto an issue to remain relevant. Show Me the Way, For What's Worth and now this. All her new releases are political.

Another thing about this video, Stevie looks old and weathered and so her appearance is perfect for this.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I know, and that bums me out . But having said that, I still love Rick’s music.

I know Lindsey is voting for Harris, and I strongly suspect Mick is, too. I would bet big money Billy and Bekka will vote for Harris, as well. John is the only one I’m not sure about.

If he's eligible to vote in the US, and votes, I'd bet Trump.

[Jondalar]

Stevie Nicks’ New Single Rocks Its Way Into The Top 10
Hugh McIntyre

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmci...to-the-top-10/

Stevie Nicks has never been afraid to stand up for what she believes in, and she’s continuing to do so with her new single. The beloved musician dropped “The Lighthouse” on Friday (September 27), and it quickly became a bestseller in the U.S.

After hours of slowly climbing the American iTunes chart, “The Lighthouse” now appears inside the top 10 on the list of the bestselling tracks in the country. Nicks’ latest sits at No. 8, as of the time of writing.

Nicks claims one of four new top 10s on the iTunes ranking. She comes in behind Cody Johnson and Carrie Underwood’s “I’m Gonna Love You” and “Timeless” by The Weeknd and Playboi Carti. Just one rung following the Fleetwood Mac star come Timcast and Phil Labonte, who push their odd collaboration “Coming Home” into the important region.

“The Lighthouse” appears to be a standalone single, as no larger project has been announced yet from the star, and it is Nicks’ first new release of 2024. She joined Dolly Parton on “What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done for You” in 2023, and her cover of Buffalo Springfield’s “For What It’s Worth” dropped the year prior.

In a press release announcing “The Lighthouse,” Nicks’ team shared a statement from the singer-songwriter about the tune. The Grammy winner says, “I wrote this song a few months after Roe v. Wade was overturned. It seemed like overnight, people were saying ‘what can we, as a collective force, do about this…’ For me, it was to write a song.” She goes on to claim that when it comes to her latest cut, “I have often said to myself, ‘This may be the most important thing I ever do. To stand up for the women of the United States and their daughters and granddaughters—and the men that love them.’”

“The Lighthouse” was written by Nicks, Magnus Birgersson, and Vincent Villuis. The single was produced by the singer herself, as well as superstar producer Dave Cobb. Another powerhouse musician, Sheryl Crow, is credited as a producer as well, and she also provided background vocals for the song.

Nicks is scheduled to serve as the musical guest on the October 12 episode of Saturday Night Live. With a new single out, there’s a good chance she’ll introduce viewers to the song, which may help it once again when it comes to sales and streams, perhaps making the tune into a hit—if it hasn’t already become at least a minor one by that point.

Current itunes USA:

#1 - Top 100 Rock Songs
#2 - Top New Songs
#3 - Top 100 Songs


iTunes around the world:

#1 - Sweden
#3 - United States
#5 - Luxembourg
#9 - New Zealand
#14 - Ireland
#21 - Canada
#22 - Australia
#23 - United Kingdom
#48 - Switzerland
#86 - Netherlands
#108 - Germany
#150 - Denmark

[Straightback]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

She's not alone. Howard Stern who considered himself a friend of Trump and always had him on his show said he is freaked out enough to talk more about politics. He said he does not care if he loses half of his audience but he's not going to be silent anymore and does not care who hates him for it.

To be fair, Howard Stern is 70 and is worth more than $650 million. It's really not all that brave when you live in the comfort of having nothing to lose. Same with Stevie. I highly doubt a pre-Fleetwood Mac Stevie Nicks or a pre-WXRK Howard Stern would be so courageous to risk alienating half their audience to march for "the cause" while scraping to make it big.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Straightback

To be fair, Howard Stern is 70 and is worth more than $650 million. It's really not all that brave when you live in the comfort of having nothing to lose. Same with Stevie. I highly doubt a pre-Fleetwood Mac Stevie Nicks or a pre-WXRK Howard Stern would be so courageous to risk alienating half their audience to march for "the cause" while scraping to make it big.

But a pre-FM Stevie or a pre-WXRK Howard wouldn’t have had an audience to begin with. Now Taylor Swift- she is at her peak right now and she endorsed Harris, alienating many of her fans. Howard and Stevie are well beyond their peak, so while I think it’s brave of them to say who they’re voting for, they’re going to be just fine. It’s hard to boycott Stevie when she has nothing new coming down the pike. Unlike Swift, whose brand could take a hit. Of course it’s impossible to feel sorry for her because she is set for life, so if she never sells another album, it won’t hurt her.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by bwboy

But a pre-FM Stevie or a pre-WXRK Howard wouldn’t have had an audience to begin with. Now Taylor Swift- she is at her peak right now and she endorsed Harris, alienating many of her fans. Howard and Stevie are well beyond their peak, so while I think it’s brave of them to say who they’re voting for, they’re going to be just fine. It’s hard to boycott Stevie when she has nothing new coming down the pike. Unlike Swift, whose brand could take a hit. Of course it’s impossible to feel sorry for her because she is set for life, so if she never sells another album, it won’t hurt her.

Totally agree with this post. She has nothing to lose. She is losing fans but so what? She is 76 years old.

[DownOnRodeo]

Sheryl and the producer did a bang up job on this. Bolstering (at times almost replacing) Stevie's vocals with Sheryl's works very well. Seems Stevie can only write structurally/rhythmically incoherent songs these days, almost like a new genre all of its own. But they do well with what they were given. And the call-back to lyrics from Straight Back gave me a happy tingle (even though I don't like that song much either).

Stevie inserting herself into the song as a beacon of political activism is like a bad joke. No need for a skit on SNL... Just play the video.

Well done Sheryl.
Er, Stevie too.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by bwboy

But a pre-FM Stevie or a pre-WXRK Howard wouldn’t have had an audience to begin with. Now Taylor Swift- she is at her peak right now and she endorsed Harris, alienating many of her fans. Howard and Stevie are well beyond their peak, so while I think it’s brave of them to say who they’re voting for, they’re going to be just fine. It’s hard to boycott Stevie when she has nothing new coming down the pike. Unlike Swift, whose brand could take a hit. Of course it’s impossible to feel sorry for her because she is set for life, so if she never sells another album, it won’t hurt her.

Da Googles says Taylor is worth 1.3 BILLION. And Stevie worth 120 million. WHO can afford to take the hit?

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Straightback

To be fair, Howard Stern is 70 and is worth more than $650 million. It's really not all that brave when you live in the comfort of having nothing to lose. Same with Stevie. I highly doubt a pre-Fleetwood Mac Stevie Nicks or a pre-WXRK Howard Stern would be so courageous to risk alienating half their audience to march for "the cause" while scraping to make it big.

You are looking at this being about money. Its far more principled about that. Howard's key demo is younger white men which is Trump's strongest group. They were friends and hung out together in their personal time. If Howard talked about politics he would get slammed by his listeners. You are trivializing endorsements being about money. People all over this country have lost family and friends over this.
I hate the hypocrisy of people flaming endorsements only on the side they don't agree with or alleging the amount of money they have insulates them from attack. That's pure rubbish. Using that logic then Kid Rock endorsed Trump just to make money and be popular. This garbage is always pushed on Fox and the right that super rich liberals are phony and out of touch and their opinions don't count. Whether you agree with Kid Rock or not, his opinion counts just as much as Howard's or Taylor Swift. No one tells Kid Rock to shut up and sing.
Regardless of how much money people have, everyone has lost friends, family, and associates over this. There are things in life more important than popularity and money in your bank account. The saddest part is none of these people are hitting the campaign trail or doing commercials for candidates. They express an opinion or state who they will vote for and there are far too many people cook up way too many reasons for their motive for doing so. I never see questioning of Ted Nugent or Kid Rock or Hulk Hogan. The right loves to pretend they are more tolerant except when it comes to political beliefs they may not agree with.
A few weeks ago there was a Sheriff in Ohio that stated his office wanted the names and addresses of anyone with a Harris sign in their yard. Can you imagine this? If a Sheriff said this about Trump signs the governor of any state and any political party would remove the sheriff from office. What was he planning to do? Arrest people? Make up investigations? He is the highest law enforcement officer in the county. Yet he is still in power, the governor of Ohio did not remove him and he is on Fox news playing a victim. The hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a knife. Can you imagine the meltdown on Fox News if any Sheriff said this about Trump signs? Yet somehow they make him out to be a victim. Your neighbor who does not agree with you politically is not your enemy. Your celebrity entertainer who does not agree with you is not your enemy. In 2000 and 2004 John Fogherty actively campaigned against George Bush for president yet Bush was a fan and played his music. Yet the Dixie Chicks say a joke that they were ashamed Bush was from Texas and all Clear Channel radio stations pulled their music and they were boycotted from Country Music. Can you imagine if Kid Rock was boycotted by 85% of radio stations? So let the boycotts of Stevie begin!

[Villavic]

I have a diiferent point of view. Of course I know this is an elections year for the US. And I am aware of some events, polls, the candidates, etc. But despite that, and as a foreign viewer, I don't relate the video so much to the current political situation, the elections, but mainly to feminism.

And it just makes me think that the world and times have changed. In the 70s and 80s this video would have attracted a lot of attention. I don't remember having seen video clips about it, much less from young artists. Today it is one more expression among many.

[UnwindedDreams]

The music video has en enormous amount of views already: 400,000.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I have a diiferent point of view. Of course I know this is an elections year for the US. And I am aware of some events, polls, the candidates, etc. But despite that, and as a foreign viewer, I don't relate the video so much to the current political situation, the elections, but mainly to feminism.

I agree- the video (and song) aren’t about politics, it’s about feminism and the issue of choice. Now that means it’s at odds with certain issues in politics, but it’s not an anti-Trump message. It’s a pro-choice message.

Personally, the song does nothing for me. It’s 100 times better than Show Me the Way, but considering that was the worst song I think she’d ever written or sang, that’s hardly high praise. I saw the names of the co-writers, and I’ve never heard of them. I do love the lyrical throwbacks to the Nightmare and Straight Back, and kind of wish she had just reimagined both songs as a mash up with some new lyrics. I think it would have made for a much better song. The video is interesting- what can I say, I love a stormy sea and lightning as much as anyone else, and I thought the protest clips were effective when juxtaposed with those scenes, but longer clips with Stevie would have been nice. She looks good, but is it because she really looks good, or because the clips are so fast it LOOKS like she looks good? Guess we’ll find out when she performs on SNL.

Would have been nice to see Sheryl and Lori in the video… more women to get the message across.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I agree- the video (and song) aren’t about politics, it’s about feminism and the issue of choice. Now that means it’s at odds with certain issues in politics, but it’s not an anti-Trump message. It’s a pro-choice message.

Personally, the song does nothing for me. It’s 100 times better than Show Me the Way, but considering that was the worst song I think she’d ever written or sang, that’s hardly high praise. I saw the names of the co-writers, and I’ve never heard of them. I do love the lyrical throwbacks to the Nightmare and Straight Back, and kind of wish she had just reimagined both songs as a mash up with some new lyrics. I think it would have made for a much better song. The video is interesting- what can I say, I love a stormy sea and lightning as much as anyone else, and I thought the protest clips were effective when juxtaposed with those scenes, but longer clips with Stevie would have been nice. She looks good, but is it because she really looks good, or because the clips are so fast it LOOKS like she looks good? Guess we’ll find out when she performs on SNL.

Would have been nice to see Sheryl and Lori in the video… more women to get the message across.

Great post bwboy. It’s about choice and one’s right to care for their health. No hints about Trump in the song. I think she looks good too.

I hope it’s not disrespectful but her marching in place dance in the room could have been left out and she could have just stomped one foot to the beat of the song. She looked rather elderly doing that march in place. But the twirl and her head banging was amazing as was her dancing in the lighthouse holding her dress.

I don’t know about the song. I think Show Them The Way was a better lyric. I don’t mind that this is wordy, the lyrics just don’t seem to challenge my vocabulary. I feel like she should have opened a thesaurus. The video is incredible.

[Feather Blade]

I was excited to see something new coming from her and then so bummed out to hear it was going to be another political statement. For so long she was savvy enough to realize that few people want to be lectured by a celebrity as to what their beliefs should be no matter which side of the aisle you are on. Has there actually been any press about this being a harbinger of a forthcoming album, or is this just hopeful conjecture by some?