Time

[MacShadowsBall]

Time isn't a bad album.

Stevie and Lindsey were gone and Christine was just there to provide five songs to the album. Billy didn't really get much attention during his Mac tenure, getting lost in the mix (if you will) essentially making him a "new" member along with Bekka and Dave. Of course Mick and John were there so yes it was still Fleetwood Mac, but they aren't singer/songwriters and the faces of the band like Christine, Stevie, and Lindsey and as Peter and Bob Welch were during their tenures.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

Time isn't a bad album.

Stevie and Lindsey were gone and Christine was just there to provide five songs to the album. Billy didn't really get much attention during his Mac tenure, getting lost in the mix (if you will) essentially making him a "new" member along with Bekka and Dave.

But Billy WASN'T a new member, and FANS (not necessarily the public) knew him. He had been affiliated with Fleetwood Mac in some way for over a decade by that point, and had been in the band for two big tours and a modest-selling album. Fleetwood Mac had several minor hits during his time.

Of course Mick and John were there so yes it was still Fleetwood Mac, but they aren't singer/songwriters and the faces of the band like Christine, Stevie, and Lindsey and as Peter and Bob Welch were during their tenures.

Some fan of Fleetwood Mac from day one in 1973: "Penguin" -no Peter, no Jeremy, no Danny...NOT Fleetwood Mac. Sure, Christine is there, but it's just NOT Fleetwood Mac.

I don't disagree that Billy wasn't exactly the face of the band at that point, but neither was Bob Welch in 1973, except for the handful of fans that were giving it a chance, regardless of who was in it.

[aleuzzi]

Time is a much better album, IMO, than Mask. Bekka and Billy sound especially good. I don't see the logic in including Dave Mason. But otherwise, the songs and performances are strong.

My only other complaint is the cheesy sounding keyboard tones. Christine's approach is fine, as is her playing. But the sound of the electric keyboard is tinny and cheap.

I like the running order of the songs. So long as Mason's contributions are removed.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Time is a much better album, IMO, than Mask. Bekka and Billy sound especially good. I don't see the logic in including Dave Mason. But otherwise, the songs and performances are strong.

Billy quit in early 1993, so they needed a male singer/guitarist, hence Dave Mason. If Billy had stayed, I doubt Mason would have been hired.

If it had continued, I think Christine and Dave would have been gone by the next record. With the whole alt.country thing from the mid to late '90s, it could have been interesting.

[FierySequences]

I'm enjoying the Time love replies.

To me, this album is a pretty straight forward rock and blues album...with a little country thrown in.

I agree with the poster that said Dave's contributions wasn't needed, but since Billy had quit, I can now see why he was needed.

Right after SN and CM annouced they were now longer touring the band...I envisioned a 4 piece with just the guys carrying on. Some of the pics in the BTM tour book (just the guys) made me wonder what kind of rock and blues future this quartet would have pulled off. I would have bought a ticket to that show.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by FierySequences

Right after SN and CM annouced they were now longer touring the band...I envisioned a 4 piece with just the guys carrying on. Some of the pics in the BTM tour book (just the guys) made me wonder what kind of rock and blues future this quartet would have pulled off. I would have bought a ticket to that show.

It would have gone something like this

[FierySequences]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

It would have gone something like this

I love it! thx for sharing, Steve

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

It would have gone something like this

I love this! Thanks for sharing it!

[MacShadowsBall]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

It would have gone something like this

Where did that come from? I love it!

No keyboard player so the opening chords were done on guitar, I suppose Rick played lead while Billy did rhythm and other guy played bass?

[Neb-Maat-Re]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

If Billy had stayed, I doubt Mason would have been hired.

Should have been Billy Thorpe.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Neb-Maat-Re

Should have been Billy Thorpe.

Eh, probably not. I think he burned some bridges with Mick and Bekka on that tour. I know he took off for hours without letting anybody know where he was when they played in Dayton, and that Bekka went off on him after the show. The chemistry between Thorpe and Bekka was nothing like the chemistry between Bekka and Burnette.

[FierySequences]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Eh, probably not. I think he burned some bridges with Mick and Bekka on that tour. I know he took off for hours without letting anybody know where he was when they played in Dayton, and that Bekka went off on him after the show. The chemistry between Thorpe and Bekka was nothing like the chemistry between Bekka and Burnette.

What the hell was I doing in 95? I think I lived in NC at the time.

Damn If I had been in Dayton, (I am from there) the story would go more like Mick and Bekka disapear with me to Yellow Springs where we would go to Ha Ha Pizza, drink some great wine, then Mick would pull out some of the freshest grass and we would get lost in the wooded splendor of Glen Helen.

Mick would adopt me and I would be on their road crew until the end of the Dance tour and then later I would become Stevie's PA. She would have released more (1 or 2) albums solo and w/ Mac. We would hear more songs like SOTM and Angel live. I'd be living in Hawaii by now And the universe would be in alignment

[Neb-Maat-Re]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I know he took off for hours without letting anybody know where he was ...

Making the him the first guitarist to to do that before joining FM?

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

The chemistry between Thorpe and Bekka was nothing like the chemistry between Bekka and Burnette.

Sorry, meant Thorpe instead of Mason. I doubt that changes your thoughts.