Hotel California (song)

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

You know WAY more about Steely Dan than I've ever wanted to know. I only know it's not "a man"!

Henley and Frey didn't get more UNTIL they reunited, correct? There's a fairly large segment in History(do you have it?) about it. And to be fair, Felder was the last full member(according to his book). Every member had an equal share, up until Felder joined. After that, greed set in, I guess. Timothy and Joe were never full share members.

Soooooo, after Bernie and Randy quit, the three "owners" were Don, Glenn, and Don. On paper, Felder deserved his 1/3 share of everything, including merch and what not. I'm sure if he had a time machine he'd back up and not be such a dick about it, but he was always demanding(rightfully so) to see the books, and make sure he was getting his cut.

It would suck to have your cut taken away, but at the same time, be happy and accept the millions you're still going to walk away with. I think they should have given him one last chance. "Buddy, this is IT. If you can't let it go, you're gone".

Supposedly before Christine came back, the SYW split was:
$tevie 40%
Lindsey 30%
John 15%
Dick 15%
I'm sure $tevie probably still makes more, but how would they split it now? $tevie 30%
Lindsey and Chris 20%
John and Dick 15%
Just a guess on the current split...

That's my understanding. They split up in 1980 when everything was still split evenly 5 ways. During the Hell Freezes over era, Irving pushed and got this new equation. He had the Fleetwood Mac example to use with the Eagles.

I actually don't know very much about Steely Dan. I never owned any of their music but some of it is pretty good IMHO. What I wrote here was from an interview with Henley. I would never had known the bass player's name to save my life. Although Christine really dug Steely Dan. There is a story of hers when she lived in the Hollywood Hills in the mid 70s where she said she had outside parties at the pool and their amplifier cranked the Steely Dan album "Aja" all down through the valley. She said she wore the album out. I would have loved to have been her neighbor. I bet she had the best parties ever. I also bet she had the best Hi-Fi stereo money could buy

BTW, I bet even without Lindsey, her rate probably went up to 45% at least She is filling more than 50% of those seats sadly

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

That's my understanding. They split up in 1980 when everything was still split evenly 5 ways. During the Hell Freezes over era, Irving pushed and got this new equation. He had the Fleetwood Mac example to use with the Eagles.

I actually don't know very much about Steely Dan. I never owned any of their music but some of it is pretty good IMHO. What I wrote here was from an interview with Henley. I would never had known the bass player's name to save my life. Although Christine really dug Steely Dan. There is a story of hers when she lived in the Hollywood Hills in the mid 70s where she said she had outside parties at the pool and their amplifier cranked the Steely Dan album "Aja" all down through the valley. She said she wore the album out. I would have loved to have been her neighbor. I bet she had the best parties ever. I also bet she had the best Hi-Fi stereo money could buy

BTW, I bet even without Lindsey, her rate probably went up to 45% at least She is filling more than 50% of those seats sadly

So you don't have History of the Eagles? It's FANTASTIC. I've watched it probably 50 times. I've made DVD copies for probably a dozen people. I have a set in my car right now, because I was talking to an old man at a bar last week, and he was telling me how much he loved The Eagles. I told him I'd have him a Xmas present the next time I saw him(even though I'd never met him before). Hey, Don Henley's got plenty of money!

Honestly, I've just never given Steely Dan a chance. I don't own any, either. My prejudiced take on it is that it's probably too jazzy for me. With Christine being a big fan, you'd have thought I'd have tried it. Nope!

I'd have LOVED to have gotten sh*tfaced with her, back in the day. Couple bottles of wine and some blow? SIGN ME UP!

I know the old goat fills at least half of the seats. There's no accounting for taste! Those are "lowest common denominator people"!!!

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

So you don't have History of the Eagles? It's FANTASTIC. I've watched it probably 50 times. I've made DVD copies for probably a dozen people. I have a set in my car right now, because I was talking to an old man at a bar last week, and he was telling me how much he loved The Eagles. I told him I'd have him a Xmas present the next time I saw him(even though I'd never met him before). Hey, Don Henley's got plenty of money!

Honestly, I've just never given Steely Dan a chance. I don't own any, either. My prejudiced take on it is that it's probably too jazzy for me. With Christine being a big fan, you'd have thought I'd have tried it. Nope!

I'd have LOVED to have gotten sh*tfaced with her, back in the day. Couple bottles of wine and some blow? SIGN ME UP!

I know the old goat fills at least half of the seats. There's no accounting for taste! Those are "lowest common denominator people"!!!

When I was an early teen. There was a girl in my neighborhood who had an aunt who would watch those crazy Christian channels where everything was satanic and everyone going to hell. She sent her parents these cassette tapes from these preachers talking about rock bands and their satanic influence. Hotel California was a major topic of discussion. The "Beast" was considered Satan. But I forgot about the shadowy figure on the back of the album that was supposedly a tribute to Satan which of course the band denied. They also went off on Fleetwood Mac and those crystal balls on the White album and Rumours and how the band was into the occult.
Here is a short clip that brought back the memories of Satan and Hotel California

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QmYKgYLJfM

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

When I was an early teen. There was a girl in my neighborhood who had an aunt who would watch those crazy Christian channels where everything was satanic and everyone going to hell. She sent her parents these cassette tapes from these preachers talking about rock bands and their satanic influence. Hotel California was a major topic of discussion. The "Beast" was considered Satan. But I forgot about the shadowy figure on the back of the album that was supposedly a tribute to Satan which of course the band denied. They also went off on Fleetwood Mac and those crystal balls on the White album and Rumours and how the band was into the occult.
Here is a short clip that brought back the memories of Satan and Hotel California

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QmYKgYLJfM

People are just dumber than a bag of hammers.

Maybe part of the reason $tevie works my last nerve is - that I don't believe in fairy tales. I'm a realist, and an atheist. I need science and PROOF to believe in sh*t like that. I remember when I was about 10, after my parents had got divorced, and Mom was trying to raise me right. So we went to my Pentecostal preacher uncle's church for a couple of years. We ended up going to some revival one weekend. People around us were speaking in tongues, and they had snakes at the altar. My Mom and I looked at each other like, "what the F*CK are we doing here?" We got up and left, and never went back. Religious people scare the f*ck out of me!

[Villavic]

There was a time when many people tried to find the "hidden satanic message" within Hotel California, Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven, Styx' Snowblind and other songs.

Henley also explained that the lyrics don't have to be that accurate. In fact, he laughs at criticisms about wine not being a "spirit" drink (wine is just fermented, spirits are distilled). They wrote "Please bring me my wine" just to rhyme with "1969".

And yes, History of the Eagles is a great doc. I watched lot of times until Netflix removed it from its catalog.

PS: It's amazing how you guys find the way to mention Stevie Nicks in every thread, even in those which it seems that there was no relationship with her.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Villavic

There was a time when many people tried to find the "hidden satanic message" within Hotel California, Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven, Styx' Snowblind and other songs.

Henley also explained that the lyrics don't have to be that accurate. In fact, he laughs at criticisms about wine not being a "spirit" drink (wine is just fermented, spirits are distilled). They wrote "Please bring me my wine" just to rhyme with "1969".

And yes, History of the Eagles is a great doc. I watched lot of times until Netflix removed it from its catalog.

PS: It's amazing how you guys find the way to mention Stevie Nicks in every thread, even in those which it seems that there was no relationship with her.

We only mention $tevie in every thread BECAUSE $HE SLEPT WITH EVERYONE WE'VE EVER HEARD OF.

How can you have a Don Henley discussion without her and their baby $he aborted?

And everyone should buy History on Ebay. I did. I think I paid maybe $20 for the 3 DVD set. Well worth it.

[secondhandchain]

[QUOTE=HomerMcvie;1262878]So you don't have History of the Eagles? It's FANTASTIC. I've watched it probably 50 times. I've made DVD copies for probably a dozen people. I have a set in my car right now, because I was talking to an old man at a bar last week, and he was telling me how much he loved The Eagles. I told him I'd have him a Xmas present the next time I saw him(even though I'd never met him before). Hey, Don Henley's got plenty of money!

Honestly, I've just never given Steely Dan a chance. I don't own any, either. My prejudiced take on it is that it's probably too jazzy for me. With Christine being a big fan, you'd have thought I'd have tried it. Nope!

OH David Steely Dan is AWESOME!!!!!! You are missing some great music.

[HomerMcvie]

[QUOTE=secondhandchain;1262982]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

So you don't have History of the Eagles? It's FANTASTIC. I've watched it probably 50 times. I've made DVD copies for probably a dozen people. I have a set in my car right now, because I was talking to an old man at a bar last week, and he was telling me how much he loved The Eagles. I told him I'd have him a Xmas present the next time I saw him(even though I'd never met him before). Hey, Don Henley's got plenty of money!

Honestly, I've just never given Steely Dan a chance. I don't own any, either. My prejudiced take on it is that it's probably too jazzy for me. With Christine being a big fan, you'd have thought I'd have tried it. Nope!

OH David Steely Dan is AWESOME!!!!!! You are missing some great music.

What's their best album? I'll look for it. Do they have a greatest hits? (Totally off my radar)

[sue]

I always thought ..Hotel California was about drug addiction, you know.
“You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave”
I’m not a big Eagles fan, but they wrote some bloomin good songs.

Though Hotel California sounds a bit like a Jethro Tull track.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by sue

Though Hotel California sounds a bit like a Jethro Tull track.

I never would have thought of that association. IMO Hotel California's closest musical relative is Poco's Rose of Cimarron which came out just before the former. It was recorded a couple of years before Timothy B. Schmitt jumped ship from Poco to the Eagles.I never understood why it wasn't a hit for them.

[sue]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I never would have thought of that association. IMO Hotel California's closest musical relative is Poco's Rose of Cimarron which came out just before the former. It was recorded a couple of years before Timothy B. Schmitt jumped ship from Poco to the Eagles.I never understood why it wasn't a hit for them.

The song ..”We should know “ by Jethro Tull is similar sounding, to Hotel California....but the Ian Anderson song is from a 1969 Album...Stand up

[FuzzyPlum]

[QUOTE=HomerMcvie;1262984]

Originally Posted by secondhandchain

What's their best album? I'll look for it. Do they have a greatest hits? (Totally off my radar)

Ha...never listened to it but I know their biggest record was Aja.
It was nominated for a Grammy the same year as Rumours.

[HomerMcvie]

[QUOTE=FuzzyPlum;1262988]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Ha...never listened to it but I know their biggest record was Aja.
It was nominated for a Grammy the same year as Rumours.

Yeah, Aja is the only album name of theirs I knew, without looking it up.