Technical difficulties or is this the new "Dreams"

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Sue, you are a King. I would pee myself to hear Angel live. Though Stevie’s current drummer is really not suited for her band. My favorites were Jimmy Paxson, Mark Schulman, and Scott Crago.
The current guy plays, to my ears, like high school battle of the bands

Give me Rick or Jerry Marotta. Rick was probably the only highlight of the RAL tour. His brother Jerry pumped such life into many songs on OSOTM: Long Way To Go, Ghosts, Oooh My Love, Fire Burning, and Juliet. Not a coincidence those are the better songs on the album without a drum machine. Gosh they are so freaking good.

Scottie Crago was good too. I LOVED her Timespace touring band. OMG that was her best band ever. Les on guitar and an electric guitar Landslide were really cool. They made Scottie do a drum solo. I always hated those drum solos into Stand Back. Gosh remember the explosions they pumped into the beginning of Edge of 17. Just wow.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

I had the same thought, the guy just bashes through everything like it’s an AC/DC song.

IMO, he has no clue how to play the groove that Stand Back requires. He goes cymbal. SPAT. cymbal. SPAT. Where Jimmy really, I hear, got the dance beat right on it that you could clap to.

Here are two Stand Backs. One from this year (first) and one from 2012 (where we also see Stevie wearing the original cape. Alas, 2023 doesn't mark 40 years since she's worn it!)

2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcXpsf3GN8g
2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KB5WXBtVxE

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

IMO, he has no clue how to play the groove that Stand Back requires. He goes cymbal. SPAT. cymbal. SPAT. Where Jimmy really, I hear, got the dance beat right on it that you could clap to.

Here are two Stand Backs. One from this year (first) and one from 2012 (where we also see Stevie wearing the original cape. Alas, 2023 doesn't mark 40 years since she's worn it!)

2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcXpsf3GN8g
2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KB5WXBtVxE

Its all style. The one you dont like is playing more traditional to the song's roots. It was a drum machine. Its also the more prevalent way its always been played. I also believe a phone camera is not picking up all the sound which is misleading.

Even Russ and Jerry play it that way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ArukoPm20

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Its all style. The one you dont like is playing more traditional to the song's roots. It was a drum machine. Its also the more prevalent way its always been played. I also believe a phone camera is not picking up all the sound which is misleading.

Even Russ and Jerry play it that way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ArukoPm20

I disagree with you that Drew Hester plays it like Russ Kunkel. I hear kick drum with the cymbal when Russ plays it. I think Jimmy played it like Russ. Drew does cymbal then snare I believe.

Also, I don't think the album version has cymbal in the opening.

Edit: noncellphone video:

Ellen 2011: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqxO3xfEqhg
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Tld1Zv2xE

[soul_drifter333]

I always liked the performance of Stand Back with Liberty Devitto that was from a TV show in 83. He nailed it.

[SteveMacD]

I can think of the perfect drummer for her.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I can think of the perfect drummer for her.

MF plays Stand Back very well if that’s who! He has sat in for a few songs with her in solo shows. I always found Jimmy Paxson to do the best with the Mac songs in her solo set; they had the FM feel with him.
It’ll be interesting to see what Mick does this year. I know Crowded House is working on another album but I doubt Neil would have both Elroy and Mick on the tour.
I can’t see Mick doing any work with Lindsey if Neil and Mike are current members of FM

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by soul_drifter333

I always liked the performance of Stand Back with Liberty Devitto that was from a TV show in 83. He nailed it.

Yes and Marotta was good too. There is something about the Marottas that lures me in. The issue is taking a disco swish drum machine and making a drummer create his own version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cElfqgK8Cf0

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Here are two Stand Backs. One from this year (first) and one from 2012 (where we also see Stevie wearing the original cape. Alas, 2023 doesn't mark 40 years since she's worn it!)

It probably does because she wore it on either the Rumours or Tusk tour also.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

MF plays Stand Back very well if that’s who! He has sat in for a few songs with her in solo shows. I always found Jimmy Paxson to do the best with the Mac songs in her solo set; they had the FM feel with him.
It’ll be interesting to see what Mick does this year. I know Crowded House is working on another album but I doubt Neil would have both Elroy and Mick on the tour.
I can’t see Mick doing any work with Lindsey if Neil and Mike are current members of FM

There are no current members of Fleetwood Mac.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

There are no current members of Fleetwood Mac.

I’d agree with you if Stevie hadn’t said last month that Fleetwood Mac doesn’t care if she sings Sara solo and if Mick had only said he thinks Fleetwood Mac was done rather than it was too soon to think about the future of Fleetwood Mac/stranger things have happened/and I even think he said we survived lost before.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by vivfox

It probably does because she wore it on either the Rumours or Tusk tour also.

She wore it in 2019, 2013, 2012, and I’m almost positive she wore it in 2007.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I’d agree with you if Stevie hadn’t said last month that Fleetwood Mac doesn’t care if she sings Sara solo and if Mick had only said he thinks Fleetwood Mac was done rather than it was too soon to think about the future of Fleetwood Mac/stranger things have happened/and I even think he said we survived lost before.

First of all you should know by now that anything she says at this point should be taken with a grain of salt and even that’s a stretch. LOLOL…

She’s done Fleetwood Mac material in her solo sets for decades. It’s just another dramatized/manufactured Stevie vs Fleetwood Mac for the sake of drama. Mick just said the band is most likely done. Nobody gives a darn about her doing Sara in her set.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I’d agree with you if Stevie hadn’t said last month that Fleetwood Mac doesn’t care if she sings Sara solo and if Mick had only said he thinks Fleetwood Mac was done rather than it was too soon to think about the future of Fleetwood Mac/stranger things have happened/and I even think he said we survived lost before.

Christine’s dead, John sold off all his equipment…

It’s Fleetwood Mac, so never say never, but it’s safe to say it’s over.

As for Stevie singing “Sara” in her solo concerts, John and Lindsey couldn’t care less, and Neil and Mike even less so. Mick might have an issue, but he’s grieving losing Christine and, subsequently, Fleetwood Mac, so that’s the least of his problems.

[HomerMcvie]

Like Al said, it's just $tevie and her idiotic fake drama.