Destiny Rules documentary

[elle]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

This isn't a dig at Stevie, but Tina should of been inducted first. It's mind boggling that she wasn't. Tina was part of the Ike and Tina Review, but also had her own solo career.

Okay, this might be a partial dig...I think this is proof of how Stevie's solo career has perhaps (dare I say!!) been over inflated in the past 10-15 years or so. The inflated cult status got her into the HOF before Tina. The prolific songwriter that has been dormant (of writing new material) since 1999....

it was not the inflated cult status, it was behind the scenes work of IA and co.

it's amazing how humble Tina was in her acceptance speech too. the woman with solo carrier that had number one hits in every decade and who completely reinvented herself and created a huge new solo carrier after Ike and Tina.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by elle

it was not the inflated cult status, it was behind the scenes work of IA and co.

it's amazing how humble Tina was in her acceptance speech too. the woman with solo carrier that had number one hits in every decade and who completely reinvented herself and created a huge new solo carrier after Ike and Tina.

Oh I absolutely agree. It was the behind the scenes work and the cult status just guaranteed a positive reception and a low risk scenario for the RRHOF.

[BigAl84]

Glen Frey's son has left the Eagles. I wonder how poorly he has been blacklisted by Irving etc. for having the audacity to leave the money making machine.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I’m not trying to be argumentative, but honestly, if my local newspaper wanted to do a profile on me regarding my work with drug addiction, my role in the community, and a look at my family, I would probably say “sure thing!” It wouldn’t occur to me to tell them they should instead do an article and photo spread of my co-workers as well.

completely and totally different and irrelevant

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by elle

you thought what Stevie's PR team wanted you to think. that's why they are paid big bucks!

same as you probably think the Stevie deservedly became the first woman inducted into rnrhof twice, rather than numerous other women with way more successful solo carriers, starting with Tina. that's why when Tina (and several others) was finally inducted for the second time, there were no mentions about Stevie already being there. because it was shameful and looked bad for rnrhof.

Just because Im not a fan, or actively dislike someone, doesn’t mean I don’t think they should be inducted. I dislike KISS, but I’d never say they shouldn’t be inducted.

As a fan of Stevie, I’m totally glad she’s in the RRHOF twice. I’m also glad Tina Turner is, too. If Diana Ross gets inducted for her solo career, I’m not going to say she doesn’t deserve it.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Just because Im not a fan, or actively dislike someone, doesn’t mean I don’t think they should be inducted. I dislike KISS, but I’d never say they shouldn’t be inducted.

As a fan of Stevie, I’m totally glad she’s in the RRHOF twice. I’m also glad Tina Turner is, too. If Diana Ross gets inducted for her solo career, I’m not going to say she doesn’t deserve it.

I don't think anyone is saying she shouldn't have been inducted. The point is, Tina was well established by 1975. Well before Stevie. She was part of a band/duo and also had a solo career. The RRHOF touted Stevie as being one of the first women to do that and a big reason behind her induction, which isn't entirely accurate.

[elle]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Just because Im not a fan, or actively dislike someone, doesn’t mean I don’t think they should be inducted. I dislike KISS, but I’d never say they shouldn’t be inducted.

As a fan of Stevie, I’m totally glad she’s in the RRHOF twice. I’m also glad Tina Turner is, too. If Diana Ross gets inducted for her solo career, I’m not going to say she doesn’t deserve it.

what she says bellow. you seem to be missing the point, again.

just because you are a fan of someone, doesn't mean you have to be blind to much larger contributions of other women, who should have been there twice or even more (or were not there even once and were long eligible) before a much smaller solo career needed to be recognized.

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

completely and totally different and irrelevant

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by elle

what she says bellow. you seem to be missing the point, again.

just because you are a fan of someone, doesn't mean you have to be blind to much larger contributions of other women, who should have been there twice or even more (or were not there even once and were long eligible) before a much smaller solo career needed to be recognized.

He's totally Team Chiffon, no matter how hard he protests. He can't hide it.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

He's totally Team Chiffon, no matter how hard he protests. He can't hide it.

I’m totally a Stevie fan! I’m just rational and don’t hate people I’ve never met because they got another millionaire kicked out of a rock and roll group LOL! Also, I’m team Fleetwood Mac.

Rock on!

I also don’t care Stevie was admitted twice before Tina. I just have better things to whine about, that’s all.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I’m totally a Stevie fan! I’m just rational and don’t hate people I’ve never met because they got another millionaire kicked out of a rock and roll group LOL! Also, I’m team Fleetwood Mac.

Rock on!

I also don’t care Stevie was admitted twice before Tina. I just have better things to whine about, that’s all.

Team Fleetwood Mac yet complacent with what took place in 2017/2018? That's always a head scratcher for me.

[elle]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

Team Fleetwood Mac yet complacent with what took place in 2017/2018? That's always a head scratcher for me.

lol. yep, oxymoron.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by elle

it was not the inflated cult status, it was behind the scenes work of IA and co.

it's amazing how humble Tina was in her acceptance speech too. the woman with solo carrier that had number one hits in every decade and who completely reinvented herself and created a huge new solo carrier after Ike and Tina.

Tina didn't hold court for a half hour at the podium!?

Does anyone remember these humble 90's quotes from Stevie i.e.
“Your graciousness is what carries you. It isn't how old you are, how beautiful you are, or how short your skirt is. What it is, is what comes out of your heart. If you are gracious, you have won the game.”

It's all so extra hilarious now.

[elle]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

Tina didn't hold court for a half hour at the podium!?

Tina is amazing.as is Cher (still not there solo, just as a duo). or Cyndi. is Diana Ross in there at least twice?

since rnrhof despite all their shortcomings still means something, also good to finally see more women and women-fronted bands finally inducted in recent years, Janet, Pat Benatar, Carole King (2nd time) .Eurythmics, Carly Simon, The Go-Go's... and for most of these names one can easily say - really hof? only inducted now?

and then there's incomparable Dolly (whether or not she or you think she is rnr enough).

interesting (although now outdated because from 2021) article with very relevant excerpt here:

But when compared to others, it makes one wonder. Singer/Actor Cher has sold more than 100 million records worldwide and is recognized as one of the world's top-selling female recording artists of all time. She’s had 7 Grammy Award nominations and won one Grammy for “Believe.” Cher, a cultural icon and rock legend, completing 26 studio albums, ten compilation albums, two soundtrack albums and three live albums still waits for the nod. And by the way, didn’t Cher set fashion and cultural trends from her stages as a rock Goddess for some four decades? And yet, no doors open for her at the RRHOF. Cyndi Lauper has released 11 studio albums, six compilation albums, five video albums and fifty-one singles. Worldwide, Cyndi has sold approximately 50 million albums. She’s had 16 Grammy Award nominations and won two. Neither of them are in the Hall as yet.

much more here, including Patti LaBelle, Chaka Khan, Gloria Estefan, and the list goes on: https://www.pgsuite.com/culture-arts...l-hall-of-fame

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

Team Fleetwood Mac yet complacent with what took place in 2017/2018? That's always a head scratcher for me.

Soap operas always end on a plot twist. Were you expecting anything different?

Just paying attention to what they said in interviews 2015-17 and looking at the body language at the Classics (especially GYOW from Classic East), it wasn’t remotely surprising or shocking that there was some type of separation, and it was kind of obvious how it was going to play out. Unfortunate, but not shocking.

Getting to actually see the band play “Black Magic Woman,” TMATTYD, “Hypnotized,” and especially “All Over Again” made it completely worthwhile. Hearing Christine trading solos with Mike made it worth it. I’m not speaking about the entire tour, just the shows I attended. As a fan of Fleetwood Mac’s entire body of work, it was refreshing to hear songs beyond the Rumours/SYW eras beyond “Oh Well.”

Furthermore, I also got to see Lindsey solo, so I still got to hear “Big Love,” “Tusk,” and ISA, as well as a few deep cuts that I never thought I’d get to see, especially “I Must Go.”

[elle]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Soap operas always end on a plot twist.

like the main character becoming possessed by the devil (see Marlena in Days). maybe that's apt here?