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Old 10-25-2021, 01:54 PM
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i know you really wanted Mick to join Lindsey on his solo tours, for reasoning i still don't understand, and sorry that now you seem disappointed.
Woah, calm down, there. I wasn’t necessarily excited about it. It was something that made a lot of sense for both of them, especially if Fleetwood Mac was done.

I’d be much more excited about a new album with the current lineup or a blues album with Mick, John, Christine, Rick, and Mike.

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that said, Mick is not promoting anything right now, so of course he's not saying anything. all his statements came when he was promoting his FM / PG project recording that was coming out at the time.

so the timeline you seem to imply doesn't really exist.
Prior to that interview, there was some type of news coming out about every two weeks. You could almost set your watch to it. Not so much since, save for Mike Campbell working with John Mayall (hence why I want him in the Fleetwood Mac blues offshoot).

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Lindsey said all Azoff cares about is money. then Azoff came out with the statement basically saying - hey all i care about is money!
Part of Irving’s job is to care about the money. That said, I think Irving was also just as motivated by spite in 2018-19.

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Lindsey said - it was Stevie who was behind the ultimatum. then Stevie came out and said no no no no no he's lying - it was I who gave the ultimatum.
Stevie didn’t give them an ultimatum. She said she wasn’t working with Lindsey anymore. There wasn’t a directive to the band that it was her or Lindsey. However, Mick and Irving knew a Fleetwood Mac tour without her wasn’t going to fly and figured out a solution that kept her in the band. The net effect was the same, but without an actual directive, it’s hard for me to see it as an ultimatum.

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why Lindsey was paying Azoff as his manager all those years is completely beyond me, because now when we see the promotion under Lindsey's new management, it's completely clear that other than talking money and instead belittling him for not being commercial enough solo, Azoff was doing beyond crappy job for Lindsey.
Having Irving as his manager probably helped get him back on a label after Warner/Reprise was done with him.
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Old 10-25-2021, 02:15 PM
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It was something that made a lot of sense for both of them, especially if Fleetwood Mac was done.
In other words, it made financial sense.

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I’d be much more excited about a new album with the current lineup or a blues album with Mick, John, Christine, Rick, and Mike.
In other words, projects that make zero financial sense.

In other words, when it’s a project that you prefer but makes no financial sense, state it here and cross your fingers that it happens. But when it’s a project that you don’t personally prefer but makes some financial sense, make it obvious that you find the idea ridiculous.

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Prior to that interview, there was some type of news coming out about every two weeks. You could almost set your watch to it. Not so much since.
Isn’t that how publicity generally works — a lot of hoopla for a time, followed by little or no hoopla? Are we still hearing about the British Invasion?

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Part of Irving’s job is to care about the money. That said, I think Irving was also just as motivated by spite in 2018-19.
Whatever motivates Irving or makes his Piguet Swiss watch tick, it’s of no musical value to Fleetwood or any of its members.

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Stevie didn’t give them an ultimatum. She said she wasn’t working with Lindsey anymore.
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ul·ti·ma·tum noun \ ˌəl-tə-ˈmā-təm , -ˈmä- \
plural ul·ti·ma·tums or ul·ti·ma·ta \ ˌəl-​tə-​ˈmā-​tə , -​ˈmä-​ \
1: a final proposition, condition, or demand especially : one whose rejection will end negotiations and cause a resort to force or other direct action.

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Having Irving as his manager probably helped get him back on a label after Warner/Reprise was done with him.
Trademark Steve Hopkins conjecture. Keep ’em coming! And welcome back.
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Old 10-25-2021, 02:42 PM
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In other words, it made financial sense.

In other words, projects that make zero financial sense.

In other words, when it’s a project that you prefer but makes no financial sense, state it here and cross your fingers that it happens. But when it’s a project that you don’t personally prefer but makes some financial sense, make it obvious that you find the idea ridiculous.
I don’t find the idea of Lindsey and Mick working together to be ridiculous. What I prefer isn’t connected to what makes financial sense, it’s, you know, a personal preference. I thought it was pretty obvious with me that my top preference is always the one that has Mick, John, and Christine playing together.

Quit trying to overcomplicate someone else’s opinion.

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Isn’t that how publicity generally works — a lot of hoopla for a time, followed by little or no hoopla? Are we still hearing about the British Invasion?
From the end of the 2018-19 tour, there was some type of interview about every two weeks until the one with Azoff. Even Christine and Brett, neither of whom were promoting anything, had interviews.

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1: a final proposition, condition, or demand especially : one whose rejection will end negotiations and cause a resort to force or other direct action.
And you missed the whole point that there wasn’t a proposition, condition, or demand.

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Trademark Steve Hopkins conjecture. Keep ’em coming! And welcome back.
It is a conjecture, hence “probably.” That’s really the only reason I could see Lindsey going with Irving. Their philosophies couldn’t be more different.
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Snapple fact:Brett's interview was part of a RollingStone series on support musicians during lockdown. He wasn't promoting anything.

I wonder if Ricky Peterson, Sharon Celani, or Taku Hirano were asked. They've certainly played with a lot of legends. For Ricky all I know of is Prince for him.
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Woah, calm down, there. I wasn’t necessarily excited about it.
not sure who you are talking to, everyone seems very calm around here.

you've been pushing Mick-Lindsey collab pretty hard and repeatedly, as can be easily verified with a quick search of this site. by your defensive reaction right now, maybe you really were excited about it, even if not necessarily.
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