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Old 12-24-2022, 06:01 PM
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Fleetwood Mac played Isn’t It Midnight on their 1987 and 1990 tours. When Lindsey returned with Christine and Stevie for the Dance, they didn’t play it in 1996 or when Christine returned in 2014-2015. Nor did Buck/Vie perform it during their tour, a bit surprising since it’s one of the few McVie/Buckingham co-writes. After Lindsey left again, FM brought the song back. You don’t have to be a scientist to figure out Lindsey didn’t want to perform it.

Yes, I do believe Lindsey could say he didn’t want to perform one of Christine’s songs, and she would be ok with that. Christine seemed like the kind of person who was easy to work with, and if Lindsey said he didn’t want to play one of her songs, then yes, I believe she would have been fine with that.
Would you agree that you don't have to be a scientist to figure out Lindsey permitted any Stevie song to be in the concert sets? While Lindsey was in the band, Without You, Storms, Sisters of the Moon, Seven Wonders, Beautiful Child, Angel, Goodbye Baby, Sweet Girl, Destiny Rules, Silver Springs and more were in the set?

In 2018, there was no novelty in the Stevie penned songs that were played live. Especially since the tour prior to 2018, they performed 7 Wonders and Sisters of the Moon which hadn't been played in decades.
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Old 12-24-2022, 06:08 PM
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Fleetwood Mac played Isn’t It Midnight on their 1987 and 1990 tours. When Lindsey returned with Christine and Stevie for the Dance, they didn’t play it in 1996 or when Christine returned in 2014-2015. Nor did Buck/Vie perform it during their tour, a bit surprising since it’s one of the few McVie/Buckingham co-writes. After Lindsey left again, FM brought the song back. You don’t have to be a scientist to figure out Lindsey didn’t want to perform it.

Yes, I do believe Lindsey could say he didn’t want to perform one of Christine’s songs, and she would be ok with that. Christine seemed like the kind of person who was easy to work with, and if Lindsey said he didn’t want to play one of her songs, then yes, I believe she would have been fine with that.
Sorry that is a leap of logic too far. The song is great. No doubt everyone in the band likes it. If Chris wanted to do it on any tour, she would have done it and Lindsey would have liked it. Buck/Vie was mostly promoting their new album which almost all the songs were played. Not much room for deep Mac tunes. By your own logic, you could also take other songs that were done on earlier tours and not with On With The Show and say the same thing i.e. Lindsey does not like it. Unless you have personal knowledge of what Lindsey likes I just cant understand that logic. Seven Wonders was not performed on SYW or Unleashed. Was it because Lindsey did not like it? It was done on OWTS because of American Horror Story (Stevie said so from the stage). It was her song and her choice what to perform. Love In Store has not been performed since 1982. Is it because Lindsey does not like it or because Chris has chosen not to perform it. Chris dug out Think About Me on the Australian leg. Would you say it was not performed in the States because Lindsey did not like it?
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Old 12-24-2022, 06:16 PM
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Would you agree that you don't have to be a scientist to figure out Lindsey permitted any Stevie song to be in the concert sets? While Lindsey was in the band, Without You, Storms, Sisters of the Moon, Seven Wonders, Beautiful Child, Angel, Goodbye Baby, Sweet Girl, Destiny Rules, Silver Springs and more were in the set?

In 2018, there was no novelty in the Stevie penned songs that were played live. Especially since the tour prior to 2018, they performed 7 Wonders and Sisters of the Moon which hadn't been played in decades.
I just know FM has never performed Isn’t It Midnight when Lindsey was in the band, and they have played it every tour he wasn’t. Maybe it is just a coincidence. I have no inside information, but if I’m right and Lindsey is the reason they didn’t perform the song live, so what? I’m not criticizing him for that. It’s just my opinion. I’m not saying he was difficult to work with, refused to play with his band mates, etc. Like I said, Christine was probably the easiest person to arrange a setlist with. If she’d felt passionately about it, I’m sure Lindsey would have performed it.
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I was in shock in 1997 that Little Lies was not performed since Lindsey was back. He is on back up vocals and it was their biggest hit from their last studio album. However Chris had to make decisions based on the amount of songs she got and she put a new twist on Say You Love Me, and did Everywhere and did Oh Daddy instead of Little Lies. I am only guessing but the Rumours anniversary may have had something to do with it. I doubt it was Lindsey who blocked it.
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I was in shock in 1997 that Little Lies was not performed since Lindsey was back. He is on back up vocals and it was their biggest hit from their last studio album. However Chris had to make decisions based on the amount of songs she got and she put a new twist on Say You Love Me, and did Everywhere and did Oh Daddy instead of Little Lies. I am only guessing but the Rumours anniversary may have had something to do with it. I doubt it was Lindsey who blocked it.
I never said Lindsey blocked Isn’t It Midnight, refused to play it, or anything else of the sort. I’m sure they discuss the setlist and narrow the songs down to the ones they want to perform. I don’t think, nor did I say, that Lindsey refused to perform it, despite Christine’s passionate tears and begging him lol. I do think Christine was very easygoing about her setlist- I can almost guarantee you it was Stevie who chose All Over Again for their last tour, for example. If Christine offered Isn’t It Midnight, and anyone seemed less than enthusiastic about it, she was fine with leaving it out. In this case, I think it was Lindsey, based on the simple fact that in three incarnations of the band, only the one with Lindsey hasn’t performed it. That’s my logic, and it doesn’t seem incomprehensible to me.
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Old 12-24-2022, 09:54 PM
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I just know FM has never performed Isn’t It Midnight when Lindsey was in the band, and they have played it every tour he wasn’t. Maybe it is just a coincidence. I have no inside information, but if I’m right and Lindsey is the reason they didn’t perform the song live, so what? I’m not criticizing him for that. It’s just my opinion. I’m not saying he was difficult to work with, refused to play with his band mates, etc. Like I said, Christine was probably the easiest person to arrange a setlist with. If she’d felt passionately about it, I’m sure Lindsey would have performed it.
But you won't say that Stevie dug deep in her song library on stage while Lindsey was in the band. With Billy and Rick or with Neil and Mike she did the usual stuff.
But nevermind, Lindsey isn't able to play Isn't It Midnight on guitar.
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Old 12-25-2022, 12:05 AM
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Y'all are just funny AF, and should get a room.

BTW, Merry Christmas. 🎁
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That's an interesting take. Since Stevie did Storms live for the first time on Unleashed, would that make it a proper tour of Tusk?
A few problems with your question:

1. The lineup that made Tusk did an extensive tour behind the album.

2. Christine wasn’t in the band in 2009, so the lineup that made Tusk wasn’t touring.

3. When the Rumours band got back together in 1997, they were promoting an MTV reunion tour and a few new songs from that album. However, that lineup never did a tour for TITN. The 2014-early 2015 tour didn’t have any songs that came after 1987. Usually when Fleetwood Mac tours behind a new album, they play four to six new songs. “Isn’t It Midnight” would have been the fifth TITN song. Swapping out OMH for IIM would have been something closer to what Fleetwood Mac would have done in 1987.
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Old 12-25-2022, 11:41 AM
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A few problems with your question:

1. The lineup that made Tusk did an extensive tour behind the album.

2. Christine wasn’t in the band in 2009, so the lineup that made Tusk wasn’t touring.

3. When the Rumours band got back together in 1997, they were promoting an MTV reunion tour and a few new songs from that album. However, that lineup never did a tour for TITN. The 2014-early 2015 tour didn’t have any songs that came after 1987. Usually when Fleetwood Mac tours behind a new album, they play four to six new songs. “Isn’t It Midnight” would have been the fifth TITN song. Swapping out OMH for IIM would have been something closer to what Fleetwood Mac would have done in 1987.
Got you. So Tango tour featured four Tango songs and On With The Show featured four Tango songs.

They also could have swapped out Think About Me and done Isn't It Midnight during On With the Show.

The Dance Tour featured the four new songs from the album. Say You Will had seven new songs.
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They also could have swapped out Think About Me and done Isn't It Midnight during On With the Show.
They didn't play TAM in oct 2014, but I see they replaced Over my Head with Think About me in late 2015 shows.
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They didn't play TAM in oct 2014, but I see they replaced Over my Head with Think About me in late 2015 shows.
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I was in shock in 1997 that Little Lies was not performed since Lindsey was back. He is on back up vocals and it was their biggest hit from their last studio album. However Chris had to make decisions based on the amount of songs she got and she put a new twist on Say You Love Me, and did Everywhere and did Oh Daddy instead of Little Lies. I am only guessing but the Rumours anniversary may have had something to do with it. I doubt it was Lindsey who blocked it.
The Dance was also the first time that Lindsey had played GOLD DUST WOMAN since 1978. I always thought that was really bizarre.

Then again, TUSK the album was only represented on the DANCE tour with two songs, right? NOT THAT FUNNY and TUSK? The biggest single on TUSK was never played in 1997.
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I don’t think Lindsey wanted to play Isn’t it Midnight live either. But if he didn’t like it, it probably would never have gotten on the album. He co-wrote it.
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I don’t think Lindsey wanted to play Isn’t it Midnight live either. But if he didn’t like it, it probably would never have gotten on the album. He co-wrote it.
There is an alternate take of Isn’t It Midnight on the Chain boxset, I believe credited to only Christine and Eddy, which I took to mean Lindsey added the incredible guitar and music we get on the final version on Tango. There could be several reasons Lindsey didn’t want to play it live (if that was indeed the case). Maybe he felt the song was too ‘pop sounding’ or maybe he didn’t want to waste his time on a guitar solo on that particular song. It is fascinating to me that he co-wrote it, but never performed it live. All the more reason I think he didn’t care to perform it live. Again, I’m sure if Christine had said she really wanted to perform it, he would have.
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I have nothing to back this up. But, I highly doubt Lindsey would veto Christine if she wanted to play this song. Maybe someone struggled with a note or two vocally, or they liked the way one of her other songs came across.

Also, it's a reunion celebrating Christine's return. Her hits are what would come front and center.

Personally, it's one of my favorite songs.
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