Box set potential

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Justin Reach

I think that if they're going to bother to do a deluxe version of the 1980 Live album then they're going to get around to a deluxe Behind The Mask at some point.

No they won't. It's not the Rumours FIVE, and it won't sell.

Even Mick's not that stupid.


Well, actually he is, so who knows.

[Macfan4life]

I love the album cover. Are you kidding me. You could have a college class earning credits discussing this album cover. It says so many things and if you stare at it long enough, you may notice something before that you never noticed.

I don't think Lindsey's absence had anything to do with the band not on the album cover. The band was not on the album cover of Tango either. I absolutely hate the Tango album cover. Modern art of a swamp by some Aussie painter. No thanks. Give me imagery with mystery every time. From Kiln House, Mystery to me, Rumours, Tusk and even the posing of Mirage brought amazing imagery. Tango is so 80's. No substance and outdated by the end of the decade. It could be a photo hanging on the set of the Golden Girls.

The Live album cover is insanely good. Ever notice some members are facing you while others are turned the other way. So clever and so freaking cool.

[Justin Reach]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

No they won't. It's not the Rumours FIVE, and it won't sell.

Even Mick's not that stupid.


Well, actually he is, so who knows.

I'd argue that the Live album was a major flop and sold less than Behind The mask.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Justin Reach

I'd argue that the Live album was a major flop and sold less than Behind The mask.

Valid argument. However, BTM had no Lindsey, and did have two relative unknowns. And did $tevie even have a song that charted?

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Valid argument. However, BTM had no Lindsey, and did have to relative unknowns. And did $tevie even have a song that charted?

With the release of the 1969-1974 FM box set, I really think a box set of BTM, along with the 4 songs from the Chain, As Long As You Follow and No Questions Asked, and the Time album will be combined and released within a year. Maybe called the 1988-1995 Years. With the rerelease of every other FM album, including those without Lindsey and Stevie, I don’t see the label stopping until every FM album is rereleased, including the Dance.

I’m excited and hopeful a lot of good material will be included! Rick Vito and Billy Burnette deserve recognition for their role in the band. Bekka and Dave, too.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by bwboy

With the release of the 1969-1974 FM box set, I really think a box set of BTM, along with the 4 songs from the Chain, As Long As You Follow and No Questions Asked, and the Time album will be combined and released within a year. Maybe called the 1988-1995 Years. With the rerelease of every other FM album, including those without Lindsey and Stevie, I don’t see the label stopping until every FM album is rereleased, including the Dance.

I’m excited and hopeful a lot of good material will be included! Rick Vito and Billy Burnette deserve recognition for their role in the band. Bekka and Dave, too.

Would you like to wager on Time being rereleased? I would.

Deserve recognition?????? Like when they kept Bob Welch from being inducted into the R&RHOF? These people don't care about who deserves what. Sorry, but they don't.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Would you like to wager on Time being rereleased? I would.

Deserve recognition?????? Like when they kept Bob Welch from being inducted into the R&RHOF? These people don't care about who deserves what. Sorry, but they don't.

When I say Rick and Billy and the others deserve recognition, I didn’t mean by FM, I meant by the fans. A rerelease would be one way to recognize their contributions. Honestly, I never expected FM’s early albums to be rereleased, but they were, so that gives me hope their later albums will be. And if the label doesn’t think a rerelease of Time would sell well on its own, then combining it with BTM makes sense. I mean, I would pick up a deluxe BTM in a heartbeat, but not Time. As someone already pointed out, BTM sold better than Live, and Live is getting the deluxe treatment.

Besides, we all know that it’s the diehard FM fans buying these rereleases. A casual fan isn’t going to pay $100 for the Deluxe Editions... or even the much cheaper but still pricey rereleases. The fact that so many albums have gotten the Deluxe treatment means the diehard fans are enough to justify the label doing this. What can I say, I have faith.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by bwboy

When I say Rick and Billy and the others deserve recognition, I didn’t mean by FM, I meant by the fans. A rerelease would be one way to recognize their contributions. Honestly, I never expected FM’s early albums to be rereleased, but they were, so that gives me hope their later albums will be. And if the label doesn’t think a rerelease of Time would sell well on its own, then combining it with BTM makes sense. I mean, I would pick up a deluxe BTM in a heartbeat, but not Time. As someone already pointed out, BTM sold better than Live, and Live is getting the deluxe treatment.

Besides, we all know that it’s the diehard FM fans buying these rereleases. A casual fan isn’t going to pay $100 for the Deluxe Editions... or even the much cheaper but still pricey rereleases. The fact that so many albums have gotten the Deluxe treatment means the diehard fans are enough to justify the label doing this. What can I say, I have faith.

Don't get me wrong, I love both Billy and Rick, and have met both of them in Nashville(okay, Billy came into the bathroom, and pee'd beside me, so that was more of an.....organic meeting). They're both nice guys, and I wish them the recognition they deserve. But that doesn't mean they'll get it, especially from the selfish bunch that is FM.

I actually like Time better than BTM. But a rerelease of either better not be more than $20, or they're in serious marketing trouble. A $100 LIVE is a huge mistake for an album that didn't sell well 40 years ago. Dump the vinyl and sell it for $35-40, if you want to move more than a (very) few thousand copies. At $100, I'd be shocked if they sold more that 5K copies. That's a lot of money for something that was never popular to begin with!

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Rick Vito and Billy Burnette deserve recognition for their role in the band.

Maybe call the skateboarder and have him TikTok Stand on the Rock

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Valid argument. However, BTM had no Lindsey, and did have two relative unknowns.

I think why they're doing LIVE over BTM is because of the songlist; people in the US see the tracklist includes familiar songs, Dreams, Don't Stop, Hold Me, Sara, Tusk AND Oh! It's live versions... Oh I don't have live versions... I'll get it!


Release BTM, most people in the US see Save Me, Freedom, When the Sun Goes Down... do they even recognize Stevie on the back?
They're like "WTF is this? Pass"

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I think why they're doing LIVE over BTM is because of the songlist; people in the US see the tracklist includes familiar songs, Dreams, Don't Stop, Hold Me, Sara, Tusk AND Oh! It's live versions... Oh I don't have live versions... I'll get it!


Release BTM, most people in the US see Save Me, Freedom, When the Sun Goes Down... do they even recognize Stevie on the back?
They're like "WTF is this? Pass"

While this is very true, this logic didn't work 40 years ago, when they tried it then. But I LOVED it!!! I bought it the day it was released, and couldn't unwrap it quickly enough to play it in the car on the drive home. But we're not exactly casual fans here....

I won't buy BTM or Time unless they're super cheap. The original releases are more than enough!

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

While this is very true, this logic didn't work 40 years ago, when they tried it then.

Well I'm sticking with my belief!
I say the songs were still newish then. Now they're beloved classics.

If Gaga released a live album today of performances from 3-4 yrs ago, Idt it would sell great.

Last thing, this release isnt even the true LIVE album as I comprehend it.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Release BTM, most people in the US see Save Me, Freedom, When the Sun Goes Down... do they even recognize Stevie on the back?
They're like "WTF is this? Pass"

Good point, but one would say the same thing about the 1969-1974 box set- no Stevie or Lindsey, no big hits, etc. Only diehard fans would buy these deluxe editions, and apparently enough diehard FM fans are buying them that the label is now rereleasing the albums without Lindsey or Stevie, which is a good sign. I mean, no one expected a rerelease of Live, and yet here it’s coming.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Good point, but one would say the same thing about the 1969-1974 box set- no Stevie or Lindsey, no big hits, etc.

My personal feeling is that the pre-BN FM music is revered because it's the original FM. BTM is a continuation of the pop rock band FM became with LB/Stevie.

The 1969-74 set is interesting to people as it says 1969-1974; An anthology of years connects more with people than an album they may never heard of, BTM. Plus, if these people listen to Classic Rock stations, they'll be familiar with Hypnotized, Oh Well, Sentimental Lady, BMW.

All of this is just my thinking but I feel confident about it.

I hope you get a BTM reissue. I really don't know what extra tracks would go with it!

[Justin Reach]

I just can't see Mick passing over the chance of making more money from Behind The Mask & Time re-issues, plus i think it would be a bit petty just to leave them out of any re-issue campaign.