All over again

Macfan4life · #1 05-12-2020, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I don’t know how familiar Stevie is with the albums, but it was her idea to play the song, not Christine’s. I don’t know why that’s hard to believe. Stevie and Mick hung out and listened to old and obscure songs in Italy in 2017, and the 2018-19 tour, at least initially, followed a similar formula to her 2017 tour.

You're still joking, right?
Stevie was asked to name her favorite Lindsey song in 1998 and could not even name one until the interviewer felt embarrassed for her and threw her a lifeline of the song Stephanie and guess what....Steive said that was her favorite Lindsey song after she could not name any. Then she took credit for the song because "names don't mean anything for Lindsey."
I would not be surprised that Stevie even knew Time existed let alone one of the obscure tracks. I don't believe she is sitting around listening to the Fleetwood Mac channel either. I don't believe Christine does not know which album it comes from either.
Each member of the band brought multiple songs to rehearse for the tour. This was one of them. For me to believe Stevie's story of her hearing it on the radio is as truthful as Stevie and Lindsey hugging on stage pretending to care deeply for eachother.
I don't believe either story. If so you would also have to believe Christine is dumb. Sorry I don't believe that either.
You seem to want to believe a woman who could not memorize the phrase "I want my MTV" and needed cue cards and multiple takes. But then again... she was born in the desert so she knows how it feels there. She either meant baby Jesus or Gulf War veterans. False comparison IMHO. This is also the woman that Joe Walsh stated thought the Kentucky Fried Chicken commercial (the one with cub scouts marching into Kentucky Fried Chicken was the latest Prince video at the Prince video premiere (Source: Joe Walsh Rockline 1990)

SteveMacD · #2 05-12-2020, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life

You're still joking, right?
Stevie was asked to name her favorite Lindsey song in 1998 and could not even name one until the interviewer felt embarrassed for her and threw her a lifeline of the song Stephanie and guess what....Steive said that was her favorite Lindsey song after she could not name any. Then she took credit for the song because "names don't mean anything for Lindsey."
I would not be surprised that Stevie even knew Time existed let alone one of the obscure tracks. I don't believe she is sitting around listening to the Fleetwood Mac channel either. I don't believe Christine does not know which album it comes from either.
Each member of the band brought multiple songs to rehearse for the tour. This was one of them. For me to believe Stevie's story of her hearing it on the radio is as truthful as Stevie and Lindsey hugging on stage pretending to care deeply for eachother.
I don't believe either story. If so you would also have to believe Christine is dumb. Sorry I don't believe that either.
You seem to believe a woman who could not memorize the phrase "I want my MTV" and needed cue cards and multiple takes for a poor job.

I believe that Stevie was firmly in the process of revisiting her backlog of songs, which begot 24KG, and then went through her back catalog for her 2017 tour. It’s not hard for me to see her carrying that line of thinking over to Fleetwood Mac.

Plus, there was this...

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...future-110414/

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Are you thinking at all about the set list yet? Will it be very different than the last tour?

Yeah. I was in Italy recently and met Stevie out there. Actually, she was in Capri and I was close to there. She said to me, “Let’s sit down and really listen to some stuff that sort of almost got forgotten.” So I know she’s already thinking she wants to do some things we haven’t done in years.

When I read that, I thought it screamed they were going to revisit the earlier and obscure stuff, and that’s exactly what they did.

ETA: How hard is it to imagine Karen or whoever pulling up Fleetwood Mac on Spotify and Stevie making a note of which songs she liked? People don’t need to be well versed in a band’s catalog anymore to find deep cuts they like.

button-lip · #3 05-12-2020, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life

You're still joking, right?
Stevie was asked to name her favorite Lindsey song in 1998 and could not even name one until the interviewer felt embarrassed for her and threw her a lifeline of the song Stephanie and guess what....Steive said that was her favorite Lindsey song after she could not name any. Then she took credit for the song because "names don't mean anything for Lindsey."

Good Lord, why am I not surprised?

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I would not be surprised that Stevie even knew Time existed let alone one of the obscure tracks. I don't believe she is sitting around listening to the Fleetwood Mac channel either. I don't believe Christine does not know which album it comes from either.
Each member of the band brought multiple songs to rehearse for the tour. This was one of them. For me to believe Stevie's story of her hearing it on the radio is as truthful as Stevie and Lindsey hugging on stage pretending to care deeply for eachother.

We all know the "Black Magic Woman is a Santana song" story. That pretty much says it all.

**jbrownsjr** · #4 05-14-2020, 01:12 PM

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Good Lord, why am I not surprised?

We all know the "Black Magic Woman is a Santana song" story. That pretty much says it all.

She can't even remember the lyrics to Dreams sometimes.

**jbrownsjr** · #5 05-14-2020, 09:13 PM

I imagine she and Mick having some time together, going through ALL the albums, spending the day together. And I could see them saying, "Oh wow, that's really apropos to what we are about to do." (All Over Again)

I honestly feel like she and Mick talked in Italy about the forthcoming axe.
How could they not? They both really had grown so tired of Lindsey.

Christine wasn't there for 15 years. She and Lindsey were in reunion mode. They aren't going to include her on that information. Especially, while she's touring with Lindsey.

SteveMacD · #6 05-14-2020, 10:20 PM

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I honestly feel like she and Mick talked in Italy about the forthcoming axe.
How could they not? They both really had grown so tired of Lindsey.

The RS interview was dated Aug. 28, about a month after the Classic shows...

While I have zero doubt that Lindsey was firmly on their sh*tlist, Tom Petty was still alive and the tense November tour negotiations hadn’t yet happened. I don’t know if they had planned on firing him them, per se, but I imagine they were planning on reining in Lindsey’s role as musical director and asserting themselves in terms of setlists.

Neil Finn was already on Mick’s radar by then, so maybe. It’s ironic that they connected sometime around the last OWTS shows.

**jbrownsjr** · #7 05-15-2020, 11:05 AM

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The RS interview was dated Aug. 28, about a month after the Classic shows...

While I have zero doubt that Lindsey was firmly on their sh*tlist, Tom Petty was still alive and the tense November tour negotiations hadn’t yet happened. I don’t know if they had planned on firing him them, per se, but I imagine they were planning on reining in Lindsey’s role as musical director and asserting themselves in terms of setlists.

Neil Finn was already on Mick’s radar by then, so maybe. It’s ironic that they connected sometime around the last OWTS shows.

Yes, I was sort of joking about the foreshadowing.

But, in a way I think this was the birth of... "wouldn't it be great if we could have some freedom from LB running the band. Listen to all of these great songs we could be playing... What if, Mick? What if?? " In my head, something like that happens.

SteveMacD · #8 05-15-2020, 01:42 PM

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Yes, I was sort of joking about the foreshadowing.

But, in a way I think this was the birth of... "wouldn't it be great if we could have some freedom from LB running the band. Listen to all of these great songs we could be playing... What if, Mick? What if?? " In my head, something like that happens.

I mostly agree, although I don’t think it even got to “what if,” given he spent a lot of that summer promoting his coffee table book on the 67-74 versions of the band.

michelej1 · #9 05-18-2020, 01:12 PM

It’s not surprising to me that they would do this song. They did DLMDA after Lindsey left in 1987. There’s a point to it and I think that it is a song Stevie would choose. To tell you the truth, Christine doesn’t seem that interested in certain songs she’s written, no matter how good they are. She promotes this song when it first comes out and then she seemingly forgets about it.

Believe me, if I went up to Stevie and Christine snd said “Hollywood some other kind of town,” I would get the same blank stares from both of them. Equally blank. I don’t think Christine has amnesia. I think she remembers this song if she wants to. She’s just not that interested.

**jbrownsjr** · #10 05-19-2020, 10:27 AM

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It’s not surprising to me that they would do this song. They did DLMDA after Lindsey left in 1987. There’s a point to it and I think that it is a song Stevie would choose. To tell you the truth, Christine doesn’t seem that interested in certain songs she’s written, no matter how good they are. She promotes this song when it first comes out and then she seemingly forgets about it.

Believe me, if I went up to Stevie and Christine snd said “Hollywood some other kind of town,” I would get the same bank stares from both of them. Equally blank. I don’t think Christine has amnesia. I think she remembers this song if she wants to. She’s just not that interested.

Haha!! You could walk up to Stevie and go, "Freedom!!!" and Christine wouldn't go ahhaaaaaaaaaaaa... " I'm sure of it.

**jbrownsjr** · #11 05-19-2020, 07:04 PM

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You could walk up to Stevie and say “I don’t want to know” and she’d try to look like she really didn’t know. But she does.

She would say, "I knew prince way better than anyone!! So shut up, Michele!!"

michelej1 · #12 05-19-2020, 07:05 PM

You could walk up to Stevie and say “I don’t want to know” and she’d try to look like she really didn’t know. But she does.

Lindsey was going through this thing where he was trying to do a rare Tusk song for each tour. So, he went through Storms and Beautiful Child. If they’d stayed together he would have gotten Chris to do her mothballed stuff. My choice would be Honey Hi, with Mick coming down to the floor with them for drums.

aleuzzi · #13 05-19-2020, 09:15 PM

I’m convinced performing “All Over Again” was Stevie’s idea. As loopy and narcissistic as she is, choosing this tune from an album without Lindsey’s participation was a very calculated move. And it paid off. From what I saw on YouTube clips (I refused to see this incarnation live in person) the song was a wise choice. They both sounded good and it was an ideal “first” for them: a Christine and Stevie duet. That novelty was highlighted as a way of telling the world they didn’t need Lindsey to do exciting things on stage. I believe they were largely wrong in that assumption, but AOA really did work.

And no: I don’t think Chris really thought about the song after she’d recorded its.