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Re: good trouble
I think Lindsey was alluding to John Lewis' expression to introduce Trouble, not to equate himself with the great civil rights leaders, but to note that he had also thought of Trouble in a positive way. Lindsey was not trying to say he had shown anyone the way. I'm glad to see him in good spirits. I wish he were not back in Mick's orbit or open to going back to FM, but I guess the heart wants what it wants. |
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Collaboration
To be clear, he mentioned a potential collaboration specifically with Mick, not FM. The general question (not mine, but I was on the Q&A) was about who he might or would like to collaborate with. He specifically mentioned Mick. It could be another “Visitor” type of album that Mick wants to do, or just Mick on a Lindsey solo track or two. As contemptible as they may be as human beings (I can only judge them by their actions), Mick and John are one of the best rhythm sections in rock and roll history. Lindsey’s songs (solo and with FM) benefit immensely with Mick and John on them.
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IF he ever went on stage and held hands with the old goat again, that would be completely disgusting. I mean, beyond words - DISGUSTING. I'd lose every ounce of respect I've always had for him.
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Between the breakup, heart surgery, losing voice, and covid I would think he would have a LOT to write about actually
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Sadly, I suspect that we will see more of Fleetwood Mac with Lindsey and Stevie in the future. FM will need a new hook for some future tour so they can make $$$$$$. And Brett mentioned that Lindsey is open to going back to FM, and now there's this opening of communication and possibly recording with Mick. I hope it doesn't happen.
Just think for a second how toxic a band has to be, and how f#%$ed up the situation is, for a sizable number of fans to hope they never get back together. I'll be curious to see if Lindsey writes more about being trashed by FM -- it helped produce great music on OOTC. |
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If he harbored any resentment about his treatment, it would be towards Stevie... AND MICK. Mick may have been manipulated by Stevie, but he took the lead in lying shamelessly to the press. It seems only logical that if he is open to forgiving one enough to collaborate with him, then he is open to forgiving the other enough to collaborate with her... and thus with both of them together. And I know this is an unpopular opinion with Lindsey fans, but I would welcome it. I want Fleetwood Mac to end on a high, not the joke that was their last tour. I want Lindsey to have professional closure as well as personal closure by being a part of that high, even if it's just one show. Last edited by sodascouts; 12-18-2020 at 10:37 AM.. |
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I could see that point of view. But I don't know how much I would want to watch anymore, I guess. I suspected that the LB/SN dynamic was pretty bad from at least SYW now, so I wasn't taken in by the lovey-dovey banter and play-acting on some of the tours between then and now. It was at least plausible that it had some truth to it.
But now, watching that kind of thing now would make my stomach turn, really and truly. And watching him ham it up with Chris or Mick or John, given how they didn't reach out to him after his heart attack. It's a bit of live by the sword, die by the sword -- they made a lot of money and got a lot of fame based on the interpersonal chemistry and relationships, and now seeing how barren those relationships really are, it's hard to want to watch them fake their way through another tour just to make money. And I don't think I could be convinced it was genuine this time. And I don't think they/Stevie can help themselves -- there's just no way they would do a show where it was all business, like The Eagles. The music is truly timeless (well, most of it), but seeing the sideshow may have run its course for me. Of course, ask me again when tickets go on sale and I'm wondering if I could just go and only look at Lindsey. |
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I've always dreamed of going to a show wearing a "$tevie sucks" shirt or something. I'm sure her rabid fans would eat me alive.
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They did with when Billy and Rick were in the band and mostly with the last tour. But I don’t think it’s possible with Stevie and Lindsey, and my observation with Lindsey is that he’s too focused on growth, personal or artistic, to just be in the moment. Sadly, that “moment of healing and growth” is exactly why he’d go back.
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when he talked to us about Stevie on that tour? he squarely placed the blame on her shoulders. it came from her. she orchestrated it. it was all her. very different. Mick on the other hand was taking the lead in the press for that 2018-19 tour for several reasons, possibly biggest being that while Stevie became a complete boss behind the scenes by managing to go through with Lindsey firing, Mick wanted to make sure not to let her get away with one thing that she and her fans have been trying for a long time - that SN=FM. it was the same reason Mick jumped on the tiktok thing - to send the message Dreams is Fleetwood Mac, and he is Fleetwood in Fleetwood Mac. to not let Stevie steal the narrative.
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there is no growth and legacy building in another year long money-making nothing-new look-we-are-back-together tour. Lindsey can be telling to himself all the bs about legacy and closure to justify the money hunger that would be the only reason to do that. no growth no legacy building, pure raw money-making. closure and legacy can be accomplished by one or 2 shows. to say - yes, the 5 are FM, that's us, this is our last show. not the year long same-ole same-ole tour where most in general audience don't even know who is and isn't in the band.
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