Material That Needs To Be Re-released/Updated

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer

The past several years we've had deluxe editions of previously released material, most recently the Live album. What's out there that needs to be "updated" or released in a modern format that you'd like to see?

- I'd love to see a deluxe edition for Behind The Mask but that's highly unlikely even though there is plenty of material to make it work. A Time deluxe edition is even more unlikely.

- The Mirage concert is long past due for an official DVD release.

- Same goes for the Tusk documentary.

- The documentary and concert for Christine's 1984 album would be awesome on DVD.
Any other things you'd like to see or that I didn't mention?

I think a Deluxe Edition is more likely than other people seem to think. Besides the CD+G on the original CD, there’s also the unreleased songs like Game of Love (my favorite) and Victim of Love, the MTV special that featured the Shaking the Cage tour without those unnecessary Stevie reshoots, the Red Rocks concert where they performed Skies the Limit for the video, and songs from the Chain box set and Greatest Hits, such as As Long As You Follow, No Questions Asked, Paper Doll, Love Shines, and Heart of Stone.

Does anyone know if the entire Red Rocks concert was filmed for the Behind the Mask tour, or just the song Skies the Limit?

I absolutely agree with your desire to see Mirage rereleased on dvd, and with all the songs included, not just the ones on the original release. Same thing with the Tango in the Night dvd, again without the Stevie reshoots.

The other thing I would love to have would be the BTM lineup appearance for either Japanese or Chinese television, where they lip synced to many songs from BTM. It used to be on YouTube, and I’m certain I remember them ‘performing’ Freedom, Love is Dangerous, When It Comes to Love, and many other songs from that album. Does anyone know what I’m referring to here?

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I think a Deluxe Edition is more likely than other people seem to think. Besides the CD+G on the original CD, there’s also the unreleased songs like Game of Love (my favorite) and Victim of Love, the MTV special that featured the Shaking the Cage tour without those unnecessary Stevie reshoots, the Red Rocks concert where they performed Skies the Limit for the video, and songs from the Chain box set and Greatest Hits, such as As Long As You Follow, No Questions Asked, Paper Doll, Love Shines, and Heart of Stone.

Does anyone know if the entire Red Rocks concert was filmed for the Behind the Mask tour, or just the song Skies the Limit?

I absolutely agree with your desire to see Mirage rereleased on dvd, and with all the songs included, not just the ones on the original release. Same thing with the Tango in the Night dvd, again without the Stevie reshoots.

The other thing I would love to have would be the BTM lineup appearance for either Japanese or Chinese television, where they lip synced to many songs from BTM. It used to be on YouTube, and I’m certain I remember them ‘performing’ Freedom, Love is Dangerous, When It Comes to Love, and many other songs from that album. Does anyone know what I’m referring to here?

I think BTM deserves to get a Deluxe Release like the 75-87 albums got.
I just don't believe it will happen.
I think Billy and Rick are tremendous musicians and fine singers (even though Rick's a rightwinger... bless him) but I don't think Warner or the band want to put that era back out there; 75-87 is where the mainstream's at.
2018-2019 Tour was considered a 50th Anniversary Tour and BTM got no love. If Billy and Rick were hired over Neil and Mike, they probably wouldn't have done any BTM songs in the setlist either... which is sad.
Saddest is that Time got one song because Stevie heard it on the the Sirius FM channel and it fit in with moving on from Lindsey. I wish they did stuff from BTM and Time live on 2018-19.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

(even though Rick's a rightwinger... bless him)

WHAT does that have to do with his musical ability, and his place in the FM timeline? Rick it's a really good guy.

John is a right wing guy. You know that, right?

What if $tevie was? $he sure sold her catalog before capital gains taxes went up before the administration change. Don't you find that to be hypocritical? I do.

No offense, but I find it incredibly childish to bring FM member's politics into discussions of whether or not they're not worthy. That sh*t doesn't belong here.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

WHAT does that have to do with his musical ability, and his place in the FM timeline? Rick it's a really good guy.

John is a right wing guy. You know that, right?

What if $tevie was? $he sure sold her catalog before capital gains taxes went up before the administration change. Don't you find that to be hypocritical? I do.

No offense, but I find it incredibly childish to bring FM member's politics into discussions of whether or not they're not worthy. That sh*t doesn't belong here.

Sir, that's not all I wrote about Rick. I praised him and said BTM should get a rerelease. I think Rick deserves more appreciation; he should've been hired for 2018.

Nothing can happen to John because he's the namesake of the band so not even worth bringing him up. Christine too...the 70s Halloween picture of her

I don't think there's hypocrisy in what Stevie did. I think it had to do with the pandemic, realizing she hasn't much time left to do albums so why not make bank. Also, I think she wanted seed money for her Rhiannon project.

I'm not offended, it's not all I wrote about Rick. Also, Mick didn't work with him from 2016 until 2020 because of his politics, Rick said that in his Peter Green death reaction interview.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Sir, that's not all I wrote about Rick. I praised him and said BTM should get a rerelease. I think Rick deserves more appreciation; he should've been hired for 2018.

Nothing can happen to John because he's the namesake of the band so not even worth bringing him up. Christine too...the 70s Halloween picture of her

I don't think there's hypocrisy in what Stevie did. I think it had to do with the pandemic, realizing she hasn't much time left to do albums so why not make bank. Also, I think she wanted seed money for her Rhiannon project.

I'm not offended, it's not all I wrote about Rick. Also, Mick didn't work with him from 2016 until 2020 because of his politics, Rick said that in his Peter Green death reaction interview.

Then WHY bring politics into it at all??? I find it to be an attempt to be divisive, and color people's opinions of members with whom you don't agree.

POLITICS DON'T BELONG HERE.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Then WHY bring politics into it at all??? I find it to be an attempt to be divisive, and color people's opinions of members with whom you don't agree.

No way, I like him "even if" was my expression. I gave him a blessing too! I've seen Rick's social media... he puts it out there.

I didn't say anything bad about Rick. The Penguin is free to remove my post or admonish. Thank you.

And G-d bless you David!

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

No way, I like him "even if" was my expression. I gave him a blessing too! I've seen Rick's social media... he puts it out there.

I didn't say anything bad about Rick. The Penguin is free to remove my post or admonish. Thank you.

And G-d bless you David!

"Bless you" in southern usually translates to "you're an idiot".

"Hey guys, I got my pe*is pierced"
"Well bless your heart". Bless your heart is the last thing it means.

I've been fb friends with Rick for YEARS, and I've never noticed any such posts.

Thank you for the blessing, but I'm an atheist, so you can keep the religion as well.

Have a good day.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Sir, that's not all I wrote about Rick. I praised him and said BTM should get a rerelease. I think Rick deserves more appreciation; he should've been hired for 2018.

Nothing can happen to John because he's the namesake of the band so not even worth bringing him up. Christine too...the 70s Halloween picture of her

I don't think there's hypocrisy in what Stevie did. I think it had to do with the pandemic, realizing she hasn't much time left to do albums so why not make bank. Also, I think she wanted seed money for her Rhiannon project.

I'm not offended, it's not all I wrote about Rick. Also, Mick didn't work with him from 2016 until 2020 because of his politics, Rick said that in his Peter Green death reaction interview.

Interesting. I had not read or heard that coming from Rick. Some speculated that Billy rehearsed with the band and was rejected thus Billy was spiteful with breaking the news Lindsey was fired (first) and not coming from the band.
If that is true, it would be odd to try out Billy and not bring Rick along.
But thats all speculation but circumstantial evidence. Also there could have been a dispute between Mick and Rick (like who does not have a dispute with Mick) and people always want to blame their politics as their reason. But who knows but that's interesting nonetheless.
Discussing politics is ok in this forum if its in the realm of discussing everything else with the band. For example, Stevie has done environmental concerts and preached Greenpeace at one time. Its political but its ok to discuss because its band related. Fleetwood Mac is like any other band or any other family for that matter. You have people on opposing sides of the political spectrum and those also in the middle. One of the funniest political moments in the band was during the Dance rehearsals the interviewer was talking about the Clinton inaugural and asked John and Chris if they would do anything like that for Tony Blair (Prime Minister at the time). Their reaction was priceless. You would have thought the interviewer stabbed them with a knife. Instead of just a brush off response.....they were very firm and with shocked faces stated they would never do anything for the labor party.
I admire Chris. She went on the record in 1995 stating she would have never voted for Bill Clinton yet honored he used their song. She also declined a White House invite in 2000. But she had a fear of flying so I doubt that was a political statement.
IMHO we are free to discuss the band's politics but we should NEVER attack each other for political beliefs. That's the difference. I have been threatened and told I was going to burn in hell by a member once.

IMHO what made the Eagles so great was their stark political divide yet they worked so well together until it blew up in the end. But the tension at that concert is what rock n roll is about.

[cactusjack]

Originally Posted by bwboy

The other thing I would love to have would be the BTM lineup appearance for either Japanese or Chinese television, where they lip synced to many songs from BTM. It used to be on YouTube, and I’m certain I remember them ‘performing’ Freedom, Love is Dangerous, When It Comes to Love, and many other songs from that album. Does anyone know what I’m referring to here?

There was a special on Japanese TV show called Sound Gig.
I just tried to upload it on youtube, but all the songs are instantly blocked worldwide. They did Save Me, Freedom, In The Back Of My Mind.

Maybe there is a different special that you saw as well.

[cactusjack]

^ok, it's barely worth it, but I could put up Freedom with the sound muted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bABnTAnna1M

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by cactusjack

^ok, it's barely worth it, but I could put up Freedom with the sound muted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bABnTAnna1M

Wow, that was awesome! Thanks for posting that video, cactusjack! Even without sound it was fantastic to watch. They all looked great, though the camera focused almost entirely on Stevie, Billy, and Rick. Speaking of, can I just say how cool Rick Vito is? He has such a style when he plays, very fluid not just in sound but in movement. I also watched FM’s appearance on the Super Bowl half time show, and Rick just completely stole the show, but not by hamming it up- just by playing so smoothly.

Any idea why they had to lip sync?

[RockyRaccoon]

I'd like to see Live in Boston get a Blu-Ray release and full audio released (a Blu-Ray/2CD release is ideal). The DVD looks really bad on a modern TV in the outdated letterbox format. Even though Christine is absent, I've always thought this was a terrific performance with Lindsey and Stevie actually looking like they're enjoying being on stage together. Also has the best version of "Say Goodbye", much superior to the album version.

[Phoenixgypsy]

Not a Mac song- but I wish they would remaster Christine's version of "I Can't Help Falling in Love". I love her version of that song from the "It's a Fine Mess" soundtrack.