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Old 03-18-2003, 01:52 PM
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Hey...i think alot of people would agree...we LIKE Carne's comments..he gives his perpective on things just like anyone else..so back off...
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Old 03-18-2003, 01:54 PM
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Old 03-18-2003, 02:54 PM
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After all, even Moses did a little bit of editing on the Ten Commandments.
To add a little levity to this, when I read your comment, I immediately thought of the part in Mel Brooks' "History of the World, Part I" where Moses walks down the mountain after speaking with God; he is carrying three stone tablets. He says unto the people and in a very loud and prophetic voice: "The Lord gave me these 15 . . . " then he accidently drops a tablet, looks down and sees it is destroyed, pauses, and continues with "these TEN, TEN commandments!!"

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Old 03-18-2003, 02:56 PM
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After reading all of these posts, it's just amazing to me how passionate Mac fans all are.
Some people reacted with pleasure, some with such anger. But some posts are very hateful. Why can't we just enjoy the wonderful music.
Who ever thought we would be in this place again with a new C.D
I'm glad for the new music and freshness it brings.
Do we have to lower ourselves to name calling and vulgar language. I think not.
Lets just enjoy the mac as long as we have them.
We may never hear from them again.
Mick did say that Lindsey stretched the envelope some.
Maybe this was the song.

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Old 03-18-2003, 03:30 PM
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Great thoughts, Alison. Thank you.

You know, hearing all these complaints about how this version isn't like earlier versions and so on, when the album finally comes out we'll hear someone complain that they took "AOL First Listen" out of the start of the song. . .

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Old 03-18-2003, 03:45 PM
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I can completely understand those who are disappointed by the new arrangement, but as someone who has listened to the old outtake versions dozens of times, I always thought there was an even better song waiting to get out.
I'm glad they did something different with it, and approached the entire song in a more structured fashion.

I really wouldn't want the band to approach a song the exact same way they approached it 20+ years ago. In fact, I wasn't as excited as so many other people were when we learned it would be included, because I sort of expected it to sound like it always has.
So I'm thrilled they did something fresh.

Having said that, I would have liked if they had done something a little more dramatic with the ending. They sort of missed the boat there. But that's just a minor quibble for me.

Now I'm even more excited to hear "Running Through The Garden"!



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Old 03-18-2003, 03:51 PM
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\Now I'm even more excited to hear "Running Through The Garden"!
And The Tower! (If that really is Goodbye Baby) If Stevie sings that one in the same key she did on the demo, like she did for Smile At You, I think I'll die!
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Old 03-18-2003, 03:52 PM
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It took me probably three listens before it dawned on me that rather than lead guitar, this song basically has lead bass! Very cool for John. How many other Mac songs do that?
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It dawned on me that rather than lead guitar, this song basically has lead bass! Very cool for John. How many other Mac songs do that?
Well, there's......
and, uhm......
oh! and we can't forget.....

errr....

Hmm, I'm gonna have to get back to you on that one!



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Old 03-18-2003, 04:09 PM
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It took me probably three listens before it dawned on me that rather than lead guitar, this song basically has lead bass! Very cool for John. How many other Mac songs do that?
Les, you are dead on about that. Throughout the whole song, the bass holds the melody, while the guitars drone on, providing the relentless licks. It's part of what makes this an especially interesting arrangement. I do believe using the bass for the melody is unprecedented in a Fleetwood Mac lineup that includes Lindsey.
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It took me probably three listens before it dawned on me that rather than lead guitar, this song basically has lead bass! Very cool for John. How many other Mac songs do that?
"Dreams" comes to mind...
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Old 03-18-2003, 05:12 PM
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OK...I caved on this one. But that's it.

At first, I was couldn't decide whether I liked it or not. But then I thought about it, and I think that if I had never heard the demo version, I would LOVE this song...its so different, so eerie. I think I'm a little disappointed that it is so different from the demo, but I must say I do love the new changes.

And as for the grammatical thing, to ME, it kinda sounds like Lindsey is singing at certain parts:

"I should have turned away and ran just as fast as I CAME"
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originally posted by Carne Vaca [QUOTE]shows a level of self-centeredness unmatched so far on these boards." "While I agree that Joesph is off to an auspicious start it would take quite a bit to trump a certain New Jersey basement dweller whom once played havoc on these forums.
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Old 03-18-2003, 05:31 PM
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Great thoughts, Alison. Thank you.

You know, hearing all these complaints about how this version isn't like earlier versions and so on, when the album finally comes out we'll hear someone complain that they took "AOL First Listen" out of the start of the song. . .

Yeah I was wondering about that too as I heard it on radio! I want the AOL verse back!!!
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Old 03-18-2003, 06:10 PM
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Smile At You has always been my very favorite demo... and like everyone else here, I did backflips when I heard it was to be included on the new album. The first time I listened to this new version I was like -> and not in the good way . It was just so far from what I knew and loved.

But I changed my way of approaching the song and listened to it a second time. It BLEW ME AWAY the second time. I just keep saying over and over that I'm *SO* glad they didn't do something conventional with this song. It's too good to be relegated to plain vanilla cladding. I think Lindsey is a genius to be able to revive this classic demo into something entirely new... he didn't give it a retro flavor... he looked at it as a new product... and what we get is this breathtaking finished product. This proves to me that FM is indeed still a force to be reckoned with in music. Long live FM!!!
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