SPIN - LB Calls Current Group a “Cover Band" (Stereogum article excerpts)

[lovethemac1]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I think this time is definitely over between these two. What she did was personal, and he knows it. Hell, how many times did he say in the last couple of months that "it was all Stevie"? He's clearly hurt by her actions and I don't think his return will be so easy.

It's different this time.

I agree, something just seems different about it this time. Lindsey said so himself. Stevie (and Mick) pulled the ultimate slap in the face, and something says that this won't be forgotten by anyone for a very long time.

I thought Stevie's RS interview was just weird. Rambling, incoherent and bizarre in places.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by lovethemac1

I agree, something just seems different about it this time. Lindsey said so himself. Stevie (and Mick) pulled the ultimate slap in the face, and something says that this won't be forgotten by anyone for a very long time.

I thought Stevie's RS interview was just weird. Rambling, incoherent and bizarre in places.

Exactly. I think this time it was too much. They crossed a line, especially Stevie. And the worst part is that she didn't seem to care. If she did, she would have tried to contact him, like Christine.

It's a shame it has to end this way.

[lennonfan]

after thinking this over for the past year my conclusion is that BuckVie should have had Mick and John with them on that 'Stevie-less' Fleetwood Mac tour that never was but should have been.

Even if that would have halved their audience the integrity would still be intact, and then BuckVie would have been free to collaborate to their (and our) hearts content!


They just wanted him in the beginning, anyway. It just would have restored original intention for the band

[lovethemac1]

Originally Posted by lennonfan

after thinking this over for the past year my conclusion is that BuckVie should have had Mick and John with them on that 'Stevie-less' Fleetwood Mac tour that never was but should have been.

Even if that would have halved their audience the integrity would still be intact, and then BuckVie would have been free to collaborate to their (and our) hearts content!


They just wanted him in the beginning, anyway. It just would have restored original intention for the band

Did we ever hear specifically WHY Mick and John did not tour with BuckVie? I don't think I remember hearing the reason why they weren't touring.

Were they busy?
Did they not want to tour?
Did they decide that they had already pissed Stevie off enough?
Did Stevie let her displeasure be known?

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by lovethemac1

Did we ever hear specifically WHY Mick and John did not tour with BuckVie? I don't think I remember hearing the reason why they weren't touring.

Were they busy?
Did they not want to tour?
Did they decide that they had already pissed Stevie off enough?
Did Stevie let her displeasure be known?

I think #3 would be correct

[cbBen]

Originally Posted by lovethemac1

Did we ever hear specifically WHY Mick and John did not tour with BuckVie?

Mick and John were probably out of their price range. The tour would probably have lost money had they shelled out the big bucks it would have taken to hire them. Even with Mick and John in the band, without the name Fleetwood Mac I don't think they would have been able to fill larger venues or command higher ticket prices.

[cbBen]

Originally Posted by lennonfan

after thinking this over for the past year my conclusion is that BuckVie should have had Mick and John with them on that 'Stevie-less' Fleetwood Mac tour that never was but should have been.

Even if that would have halved their audience the integrity would still be intact, and then BuckVie would have been free to collaborate to their (and our) hearts content!

They just wanted him in the beginning, anyway. It just would have restored original intention for the band

I don't see why BuckVie would have been free to collaborate beyond 2017 with Stevie waiting to tour with the full Fleetwood Mac in 2018.

Or are you suggesting they should have fired Stevie? If so I disagree. You can't rightfully call it "Fleetwood Mac" without Stevie and Lindsey both. Under any circumstances.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by lennonfan

Even if that would have halved their audience the integrity would still be intact, and then BuckVie would have been free to collaborate to their (and our) hearts content!

Would you be willing to take a 50% pay cut? Whether we like it or not, Fleetwood Mac (with Stevie) is an arena rock band and Mick isn’t going to jeopardize that, especially after 94-95.

They just wanted him in the beginning, anyway. It just would have restored original intention for the band

That’s overstated. The ONLY intention was for the band to continue. The primary need was for a guitarist, followed by songwriting and vocals, especially since Bob Welch wrote 2/3 of the prior two albums. I don’t know that Mick even realized Lindsey could sing or write songs. That “original intention” lasted about as long as deciding what side to get with a cheeseburger.

From an interview with Keith Olsen

“Then I got a call on New Year’s Eve, and Mick says, “I’ve had some bad news. Bob Welch just decided to leave the band. So, that fellow in that band you played me—would you see if that guy would like to join my band?” And I said, “Well, they’re going to come as a set. Because they’re very much into their own thing, and the only chance of getting them to drop that would be to bring them both on.” And he says, “Well, maybe that will work. Can you see if you can convince them to join my band?”

https://www.premierguitar.com/articl...ds_Keith_Olsen

[cbBen]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Would you be willing to take a 50% pay cut? Whether we like it or not, Fleetwood Mac (with Stevie) is an arena rock band and Mick isn’t going to jeopardize that, especially after 94-95.


That’s overstated. The ONLY intention was for the band to continue. The primary need was for a guitarist, followed by songwriting and vocals, especially since Bob Welch wrote 2/3 of the prior two albums. I don’t know that Mick even realized Lindsey could sing or write songs. That “original intention” lasted about as long as deciding what side to get with a cheeseburger.

From an interview with Keith Olsen

“Then I got a call on New Year’s Eve, and Mick says, “I’ve had some bad news. Bob Welch just decided to leave the band. So, that fellow in that band you played me—would you see if that guy would like to join my band?” And I said, “Well, they’re going to come as a set. Because they’re very much into their own thing, and the only chance of getting them to drop that would be to bring them both on.” And he says, “Well, maybe that will work. Can you see if you can convince them to join my band?”

https://www.premierguitar.com/articl...ds_Keith_Olsen

I always felt Lindsey took a little too much credit for insisting to Mick they were a "package deal" when Keith had already told Mick as much.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by cbBen

I always felt Lindsey took a little too much credit for insisting to Mick they were a "package deal" when Keith had already told Mick as much.

Well, yes, truth is she was part of the band because of him. No matter who told Mick they were a "package deal".

Stevie also told thousand times that she went and bought all FM records as soon as they joined the band, when in fact she asked Mick for them because of course they didn't have any money.

[lilyfee]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Stevie also told thousand times that she went and bought all FM records as soon as they joined the band, when in fact she asked Mick for them because of course they didn't have any money.

I always wondered how she could afford all those albums when they were basically broke!

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by lilyfee

I always wondered how she could afford all those albums when they were basically broke!

Because she's a pathological liar.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by lilyfee

I always wondered how she could afford all those albums when they were basically broke!

She was probably turning tricks to support them also. Sex is nothing to her. Sex, drugs and rock and roll. She’s lived it.

[Neal]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Stevie also told thousand times that she went and bought all FM records as soon as they joined the band, when in fact she asked Mick for them because of course they didn't have any money.

"Bought" or "got" (from Mick)... same difference.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Neal

"Bought" or "got" (from Mick)... same difference.

I wonder what she thought of Road Runner or Mrs Scarrott.