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Old 07-29-2005, 04:34 PM
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I must have missed the boat on that. I actually had to pay a lot of money all these years for all the Stevie Nicks albums & magazines & memorabilia I wanted, & I also had to pay for all the Stevie Nicks shows I saw.

But now you're saying that some fans (how many?) got all that as a gift? How cool is that!! But I wonder how they managed it, because in my case, buying Stevie's work all my life cost me thousands of dollars.
Yes and the armed troops who obliged the fans to buy all those things were pretty annoying too...

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If Stevie wants to retire or do other things I totally respect that. It's just the thought that she doesn't want to record another album because of the sales aspect. I still love her to death but that makes me sad more than anything.
She NEVER said that was the reason she may not put out another album, the interviewer did.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:37 PM
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I must have missed the boat on that. I actually had to pay a lot of money all these years for all the Stevie Nicks albums & magazines & memorabilia I wanted, & I also had to pay for all the Stevie Nicks shows I saw.

But now you're saying that some fans (how many?) got all that as a gift? How cool is that!! But I wonder how they managed it, because in my case, buying Stevie's work all my life cost me thousands of dollars.
I tend to consider the music a "gift" in a way, too... even if I am paying for it.
There are two alternatives... having no music to buy at all, or just choosing not to buy it.

I feel lucky to have that option, so I guess that's why I consider it a "gift."
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Yes and the armed troops who obliged the fans to buy all those things were pretty annoying too...

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Bet your sweet ass they were. I had my arm twisted buy one of the buggers so badly at a record store in 2001 that I bought 16 copies of Trouble In Shangri-La just to appease 'em. I've never recovered full use of my arm since, it shakes uncontrollably. Like Jello in an earthquake.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:39 PM
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Who do I love? Who?
Is it.. is it me?!
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But Stevie has never been known to make smart business decisions, none of the Macsters really have.
They're part of a generation & a mindset that don't understand the advantages of, for example, Internet distribution channels. they all still think along the lines of the older paradigms: big record deal with major company (the bigger, the better), major tour of arenas & amphitheaters, marketing push for airplay on pop radio (which is as tightly controlled today as it ever was), etc.
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Bet your sweet ass they were. I had my arm twisted buy one of the buggers so badly at a record store in 2001 that I bought 16 copies of Trouble In Shangri-La just to appease 'em. I've never recovered full use of my arm since, it shakes uncontrollably. Like Jello in an earthquake.
I thought only Hayden Christensen photos could have that effect on you...

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Is it.. is it me?!
No, sheesh! You're so full of yourself.

of course it is....
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Yes and the armed troops who obliged the fans to buy all those things were pretty annoying too...
I think you missed my point. . . or you got my point, & decided that it wasn't politically correct & so therefore willfully disregarded it by setting up a straw man.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:47 PM
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I tend to consider the music a "gift" in a way, too... even if I am paying for it.
Johnny, you can consider it whatever you want to consider it. It's your experience & your outlook on your own situation. In my case, there is the figurative side of the music -- a 'gift' to me or to the world -- & the literal side of the music -- a commodity that I have paid for. The former is merely a manner of speaking, a pretty idea. It has nothing to do with my being beholden in any literal or material way to Stevie. If someone tells me that Stevie's music has been a "gift" to me, I correct them & say that I have paid for it. I don't like being accused of shoplifting.

I can just as sensibly say that I have bestowed on Stevie the "gift" of my admiration -- a nice little idea but not one I would use as an actual premise in any sort of argument about Stevie's life or my own life.
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What's all this talk about Stevie wanting to retire?? She's only 57, not 87, and there are plenty of older artists who are still plugging away and some who are still moving tons of albums. Ask Jimmy Buffett and James Taylor how their last albums sold. Hello, this is her life! She doesn't have a husband or children. We are her children. Her songs are her children. And writing and performing songs are the things that she loves more than anything. And ask anyone who has been a fan of Stevie's for the last 20 years or so, she truly is near the top of her game TODAY.

If anything, I think the hint at performing with a symphony in Australia is perhaps a way for her to pave the way into another musical direction. The cynical side of me thinks she is trying to mine the same territory as Carly Simon (who is 60 and just had her highest debuting CD this week with an album of standards), Rod Stewart and even Joni Mitchell by recording an album of standards. But the hopeful side of me believes that Stevie is just the quintessential rawk chick, and if it don't rock hard, she ain't messin' with no album of standards. Sure she has made some unfortunate decisions in the past, but you can never ever say that she was crass enough to willingly do something to make more money or to sell more recordings. She probably has caved into record label pressure a time or two... or fifty. But her overall body of work suggests that she has a singular vision and she has generally stuck to her guns.

I hope that whatever crisis of confidence she is going through right now passes quickly enough. We loves ya, Stevie. Chin up, grrrrl!
Good postive post. Go Stevie, Go Stevie, Go Stevie !!!!
Maybe Stevie just needs a good vacation in Maui and a hug and a kiss on the cheek. Seriously, this woman has way too much creativity to just "retire". If she wants to, that is fine. But I am sure before we know it, Stevie will bless us all over again with either her music or whatever she decides to do next. I seriously doubt that she will stop doing what she loves most in this world, and that is writing and singing.

Hey, I have an idea... Maybe she can be a celebrity dance partner on
"Dancing With The Stars"
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But now you're saying that some fans (how many?) got all that as a gift? How cool is that!! But I wonder how they managed it, because in my case, buying Stevie's work all my life cost me thousands of dollars.
It occured to me that we can't discount the many and sundry who've merely downloaded every Stevie song in their collection. They haven't shelled out what you or I have, so they've certainly gotten freebies and gifts!
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I think you missed my point. . . or you got my point, & decided that it wasn't politically correct & so therefore willfully disregarded it by setting up a straw man.
Maybe a too populist point instead?

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Maybe a too populist point instead?
I . . . don't know . . . I'm not following here. Just please do not send the armed guards after me! I don't even know what I did!
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Hey, I have an idea... Maybe she can be a celebrity dance partner on
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Look at the positive side - even if she never puts out another solo album we'll always have a couple of shows in Vegas every year (so she says) lol.
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