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Old 05-01-2003, 03:54 AM
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agree with you 100%.

Great post Miranda. I think i enjoyed reading your response the most.
Thanks Wayne2. It's fun to take them all down a peg once in a while. I'm a great fan of it all, the good, the bad, the ugly. It's just a hoot to unleash on their weak points. If they didn't have good ones to offer too, we wouldn't even be here, though. Right?

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Old 05-01-2003, 05:32 AM
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Even though I like Christine, I'm glad she sat this one out. Her leaving results in a very interesting record.

If Christine does release a solo album, I probably wouldn't buy it.

I don't like "Songbird."

I think Christine's best song is "Over and Over."

I think her worst is "Mystified."

The highlights of Mirage are "Straight Back" and "Oh Diane." LOL

I don't really care that there was a Fleetwood Mac before Stevie and Lindsey. I'm not interested in previous line-ups.

"Murrow" is now my favorite song by Lindsey.

"Bleed to Love Her" and "Steal Your Heart Away" are the weakest and most boring songs on Say You Will. skip

I just do not like the song "Come", though "Red Rover" has grown on me.

I prefer "Beautiful Child" to "Storms."

When I first heard "Crystal", I though it was Christine singing the lead which pissed me off royally when I saw it was written by Stevie. That was when I was first getting into FM, and Lindsey and Christine sounded similar to me.

The only good Lindsey song on Tango In the Night is "Big Love."

"Heart of Stone" is great. (even though the lyrics are a bit trite)

"When I See You Again", "Welcome to the Room Sara", and "The Second Time" are all great songs.

I don't care for Mick. They could replace him and I would be fine with it. However, I think John is awesome and can never be replaced.

Lindsey sometimes sounds like Kermit the Frog.

I hate how Lindsey screams and yells when he is on stage. It is very annoying.

"Fireflies" should have replaced "Save Me a Place" on Tusk.

I don't think that Lindsey is necessarily Stevie's best producer. Though he has done excellent work with her songs.

Christine's voice is not particularly great to me. She sounds the same on every single song. I do like her songs though.

I don't like the White Album version of "Landslide." It's just too fast. The Dance version is much better. Same goes for "Silver Springs." The studio version does nothing for me.

I like how Stevie's voice changes from album to album.

"Joan of Arc" should have been on Tango.

I think The Other Side of the Mirror is a great album. "Doing the Best I Can" is excellent.

I don't really care about FM's personal life. All I want to hear is the music.

On one hand, I think it would have been cool if Sheryl Crow had joined FM for this record, on the other I'm glad she didn't.

Hmmm... that's all I can think of for now.

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Old 05-01-2003, 12:27 PM
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My big confession - I only got into FM in 2000! I FEEL LIKE A PHONY!!
LOL. I've only been a fan since \june.
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Old 05-01-2003, 01:07 PM
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Christine McVie is the best songwriter in Fleetwood Mac, from a composition standpoint and on a commercial level. Stevie and Lindsey are too selfindulgent in their songwriting, for the most part, and cannot resist airing their dirty laundry about all their relationships for the sake of their "art." Without the drama, without all the piss and vinegar, where would either of them be today? I always know what Christine is talking about. I don't need to know how she feels or what she says by reading between her lines...lol!
I agree with every single bit of your post, Miranda. But this was the part that I enjoyed the most, thank you for expressing my thoughts with your words.


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Old 05-01-2003, 01:43 PM
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"Say You Will" has the most potential for being the biggest hit from SYW.

Lindsey's voice is more annoying now than ever.

Lindsey should stick to playing guitar and producing.

I miss Christine more than I thought.

"Peacekeeper" is/will be a forgettable single and shouldn't have been released as the first one.

The Peacekeeper video is pretty lame and Stevie's phony laugh at the end just sucks and I think it's stupid.

Mick and John are the best rhythm section in the world.

People still get into "Rhiannon" and "Dreams" at concerts and love that they're still played to the point they sing along to "Dreams"...at least that's what I witnessed at Stevie's TISL show.

The sequencing to SYW is wrong...no wonder Stevie was upset.

I ADMIT IT, Stevie needs to do something different with her wardrobe and shake it up a little.

I'm looking forward to Stevie's next solo album.

I'm happy to have SYW and I really do think it's great, but it will never match the songs, chemistry, and cohesiveness found on the White Album and Rumours, at least not for me.

Stevie's voice sounds better now than it has in a long time.

It takes some people almost three years to hit 1000 posts on The Ledge!


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Old 05-01-2003, 02:00 PM
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It takes some people almost three years to hit 1000 posts on The Ledge!
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Old 05-01-2003, 02:26 PM
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It takes some people almost three years to hit 1000 posts on The Ledge!
Don't feel badly, Joe... some of us motor-mouths got to 1000 in record time!

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Old 05-01-2003, 04:01 PM
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I chose this post as my first in like, 6 years! Nice to be back, but I'm not sure you guys would remember me anyway. Here goes:

I miss the Stevie heart-wrenching-freak-outs with her voice; the REAL wail in edge of 17, the “dream on silly dreamer/try hard you can’t leave her/I have no idea what she’s saying now cause she’s just yelling”, etc in Rhiannon, etc.). Let loose with the emotion, girl! Pure emotion in boots, LOL!

Christine is a class act, looks unreal in the Dance video and I hope she’s happily planting tulips in her garden, while humming “take everything easy; show me a smile”.

Miss seeing FM on MTV (anyone else remember the “Dinner w/FM” contest in the early 80’s?!). Guess you have to have a belly ring, tri-colored hair and be half naked and say “f_--“ a lot to get airplay. Ah, progress.

Love Stevie and Lindsey doing “Nomad” (Candlebright on TISL). Want Buckingham Nicks Two, complete with updated version of same cover. (Pan down a bit, please, Mr. Photographer…..No Kristin you can’t take the pix, LOL!).

Really like SYW! However, anyone else feel that it is not Lindsey and Stevie together?. Almost feels like two solo projects thrown together. Although Lindsey “letting loose” makes up for Stevie being more conservative, vocally.

HATE the way Lindsey gets stuck on ONE FRICKIN NOTE on the guitar. I think I need a padded cell to fight the urge to slap him so he skips, like a vinyl record! It’s like a roller coaster whose drop is too long and all you can think about is that you’re about to hurl.

Love the fact that John McVie has the wackiest sense of humor! I’d love to go have a slice of pizza with him. Anyone want to come? (No, sorry Anne, you can’t).

Love thinking about what Lindsey looks like under the guitar-on-raft picture. (need to pause here, out of reverence and to compose myself to continue with this post!)…………………..

I like that second song, side one on TIME. “Be careful what you’re doing – you’re playing with my heart”. Hate the way I sound trying to hit the high parts when singing in the shower.

WHERE is Peter Frampton in the Red Rocks video? Is it me, or what?

Stevie is a HPOA in that Gypsie video! (Hot Piece of ……well you know!). Why is gypsie spelled like that? I always wanted to know. I like her in the rain. Always picture that she’s thinking of Linds.

I have never confessed that the reason I watched Beverley Hills 90210 is because Luke Perry reminds me of Lindsey. OMG!
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Old 05-01-2003, 04:41 PM
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WHERE is Peter Frampton in the Red Rocks video? Is it me, or what?
He opened for Stevie on that tour and you can see him playing guitar w/ Waddy at the beginning of Edge of 17.

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Old 05-01-2003, 04:50 PM
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I chose this post as my first in like, 6 years! Nice to be back, but I'm not sure you guys would remember me anyway. Here goes:

I miss the Stevie heart-wrenching-freak-outs with her voice; the REAL wail in edge of 17, the “dream on silly dreamer/try hard you can’t leave her/I have no idea what she’s saying now cause she’s just yelling”, etc in Rhiannon, etc.). Let loose with the emotion, girl! Pure emotion in boots, LOL!

Christine is a class act, looks unreal in the Dance video and I hope she’s happily planting tulips in her garden, while humming “take everything easy; show me a smile”.

Miss seeing FM on MTV (anyone else remember the “Dinner w/FM” contest in the early 80’s?!). Guess you have to have a belly ring, tri-colored hair and be half naked and say “f_--“ a lot to get airplay. Ah, progress.

Love Stevie and Lindsey doing “Nomad” (Candlebright on TISL). Want Buckingham Nicks Two, complete with updated version of same cover. (Pan down a bit, please, Mr. Photographer…..No Kristin you can’t take the pix, LOL!).

Really like SYW! However, anyone else feel that it is not Lindsey and Stevie together?. Almost feels like two solo projects thrown together. Although Lindsey “letting loose” makes up for Stevie being more conservative, vocally.

HATE the way Lindsey gets stuck on ONE FRICKIN NOTE on the guitar. I think I need a padded cell to fight the urge to slap him so he skips, like a vinyl record! It’s like a roller coaster whose drop is too long and all you can think about is that you’re about to hurl.

Love the fact that John McVie has the wackiest sense of humor! I’d love to go have a slice of pizza with him. Anyone want to come? (No, sorry Anne, you can’t).

Love thinking about what Lindsey looks like under the guitar-on-raft picture. (need to pause here, out of reverence and to compose myself to continue with this post!)…………………..

I like that second song, side one on TIME. “Be careful what you’re doing – you’re playing with my heart”. Hate the way I sound trying to hit the high parts when singing in the shower.

WHERE is Peter Frampton in the Red Rocks video? Is it me, or what?

Stevie is a HPOA in that Gypsie video! (Hot Piece of ……well you know!). Why is gypsie spelled like that? I always wanted to know. I like her in the rain. Always picture that she’s thinking of Linds.

I have never confessed that the reason I watched Beverley Hills 90210 is because Luke Perry reminds me of Lindsey. OMG!

LOL! Love your POV,why have you stayed away for so long?

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Old 05-01-2003, 04:51 PM
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Miss seeing FM on MTV (anyone else remember the “Dinner w/FM” contest in the early 80’s?!).
I vaguely remember that a couple from California won a dinner & tix to a concert during the Mirage Tour, some sort of MTV contest. In fact, I think one of the newspapers wrote a short followup on the couple that won & even printed a photo of them meeting Fleetwood Mac.

Maybe the couple was from back east -- I can't remember. Maybe it was the Meadowlands show in Jersey.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by go6car
[B]I chose this post as my first in like, 6 years! Nice to be back, but I'm not sure you guys would remember me anyway. Here goes:

I miss the Stevie heart-wrenching-freak-outs with her voice; the REAL wail in edge of 17, the “dream on silly dreamer/try hard you can’t leave her/I have no idea what she’s saying now cause she’s just yelling”, etc in Rhiannon, etc.). Let loose with the emotion, girl! Pure emotion in boots, LOL! (Originally posted by go6car)








That's what's missing in a nutshell. Forget all the criticism of lyrics that are trite, she used to take songs like I Need to Know (not the deepest, most personal lyrics) and light them on fire. I loved the version of Tear it Up from the Mask tour, especially her parts.
Remember when you could forgive her voice failing her (Red Rocks Edge of 17, Mirage video of The Chain just before the guitar part) because her heart was so into the performance? Now the vocals are pretty but the drama is sometimes absent. Of course, as I posted earlier, the best is when the vocals and drama are both there, like in Rhiannon of old.

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Stevie & Natalie Maines ripped it up on I Need To Know at the AH-I benefit in 12/01... WOW!
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Ok, here goes:

If I hear/see any more about what went on during the making of Rumours- I will scream.

Ditto if one more reviewer mentions that SYW is too long.

It is time for the media to lay off the same old tired stories. Take Dateline a couple weeks ago. I realize that Joe and Mary Schmo who live in Indiana and are only familiar with classical music are probably clueless about FM- HOWEVER- it is possible for the narrator to do a pretty quick wrap-up of the band's history and then get to the important stuff- THEIR CURRENT MUSIC.

I don't get what all the fuss over Landslide is about.

Angel should replace Rhiannon or Dreams.

I am worried about Lindsey's voice.

I'm not into videos- but why was Peacekeeper released as a single I *think* 3/4, and they then waited almost two months for a video?

Don't own any demos.

Threw out my TITN video.
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I love the back-up singers.

I think Peacekeeper is catchy.

I think Christine looks ridiculous in that hat on the back of Rumours, but it's cool that she's out of the '70s jeans look.


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