Fleetwood Mac Billboard Article 5/7/2014

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

You are incorrigible.

Michele

why blame me?
i'm just reporting what's out there.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

why blame me?
i'm just reporting what's out there.

You've heard girls saying that?

Michele

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

You've heard girls saying that?

Michele

no, i read their tweets. they come up in LB search on twitter.

i'm sure they are stored in the library of congress.

[BlueLight]

If only Stevie would ask Karen to shuffle cute gay guys to the front of the stage.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I really understand that the Macsters don't know how to market themselves, but what I don't understand is how they have consistently had managers and PR agents who have been so abysmal at it as well.

They're compared to the Eagles in another thread and think how much more exposure the Eagles get, how much more money the Eagles have made, not because of greater talent or more hits (although their catalog is very impressive), but because of better marketing.

It's a head scratcher.

Michele

The Eagles are also clueless about social media. Most of the band isn't even on Twitter, and there's no official band Twitter account. Joe Walsh tweets regularly but it's on his own initiative; Timothy B. Schmit does the same about five times a year.

They do have a Facebook, but it's a pretty generic posting of tour dates and merchandise sales. The band member sites are just carbon copies of the Eagles site all done by the same PR person (people?), with the except of Joe Walsh - he posts his own stuff.

While even this weak social media presence is better than what Fleetwood Mac's, I would hardly credit it for the Eagles' out-performance of Fleetwood Mac in terms of earnings (if they have indeed out-performed them; not sure about the numbers). This is especially true since these sites were all created within the last couple of years.

In terms of the "clamor" Lindsey wants, though, I don't see any place other than social media where it can occur... and this man doesn't even have an official Facebook or Twitter (although people keep assuming that the lndseybuckingham twitter is him just because there's no one else - and whoever runs it has no problem letting people believe that it's Lindsey).

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by Phil

I understand that Stevie's lack of involvement in the album so far may have delayed proceedings, but ultimately, it's the band tour that is going to create the biggest delay. I just hope that a second leg doesn't come to fruition so that everyone (including you know who) can reconvene in the studio as of January 2015. I say this in the knowledge that it would mean no Australian shows for this tour as they typically come here in February/March, but I'd much rather forfeit a show and have them resume recording. I also worry that the longer the album is in abeyance, the more likely it could be that it never gets released.

Agreed. I also hope they go into the studio rather than extend the tour. I love going to shows, but after three hours of ecstasy, a show is over; the memories will fade over time and die with the person who experienced them. An album lives on. An album is far more precious.

MAKE MORE MUSIC, FLEETWOOD MAC.

Sorry, just indulging in some clamoring.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by wheart

The three dot pause gave him away!!!

I don't know why it was transcribed like that. The transcription is actually inaccurate. Here is what he says, starting at the pertinent part:

"and then to come back when we're done with that and finish this up with Stevie and to, uh, who has, you know, Stevie has assured us she will be ready to do that then, and uh, and then we'll, we can, you know, we'll have something to go out and promote with some new music."

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=53651

He pauses a lot, so I'm not sure why the dots were added there in the initial transcription when they weren't put elsewhere. Regardless, reading deep significance into what is not an extraordinarily long pause seems a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

This seems like a classic case of people looking for ways to create conflict even though none has been stated.

Fleetwood Mac fans are such a funny bunch. Many of them actually seem to WANT the band members to be at each other's throats! It's interesting.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Agreed. I also hope they go into the studio rather than extend the tour. I love going to shows, but after three hours of ecstasy, a show is over; the memories will fade over time and die with the person who experienced them.

My albums will die with the person who experienced them too. They're going in the casket. Michele

[teedeerocks]

Originally Posted by elle

no, i don't think he's talking about either the record companies or fans such as ~150 people who post here.

he is talking about wider public. casual fans. including all those tens of thousands that fill out arenas at exorbitant prices for FM shows.

LB has gotten over clamoring for record companies' interest long time ago. i would have thought maybe that was just for solo if it wasn't for their EP self-release and Mick saying at the m&gs last year that they are well aware that album will not sell, but they want to put it out because they feel the need to do it.

as for the fans like people here, if they were doing anything for us they'd stop doing GH tours long ago and start playing deep cuts. they can't care less what we think.

i think he's talking about one of the 2 things (possibly both) -

• generating public interest in general for new music from the band reunited with CM (and if there's great interest they won't wait for 2015, they might put the album out sooner)
• generating enough public push to get Stevie on board, this year (like they did with Playboy interview and singing a message song on his solo tour in 2012)

now, this public clamor is oddly reminiscent of something Stevie said when the EP was coming out - to paraphrase - "if there's enough public interest for this EP, i will agree to a full album with the band." so while the rest of the band wants to put out an album to prove they still have something to say, she was basically saying she only cares to put it out if there's great possibility of a commercial success. remember, "i wanna be a star".

Let's not forget the all important,"I am a rock star,rock stars are not nice".

[teedeerocks]

Originally Posted by elle

yes. and i fully expect it to happen again. you can easily find tweets from young girls saying how they are counting on their "fabulous tits to get them to the stage in front of LB" at upcoming FM shows just like in 2013.

although would you agree that better characterization of that would be ego trip (i'll loosely define it as trying to convince himself he's still hot by having young pretty girls screaming for him) as opposed to a power trip (trying to convince your peers or others that you are more important than them and using that power to get your way)?

Bucky is a whackjobA middle aged married man who also gets to nuzzle his ex at his own leisure onstage and still needs the bouncing boobies for satisfaction-what a mess he is.No self esteem/worth whatsoever IMO.As you all may know by now-HE IRKS THE S..T OUT OF ME!

[Jondalar]

I just think that a lot people will come up with things to make Lindsey look bad. He has been pretty admirable for putting up with all the BS. Maybe if he became a big drug addict or joined a cult people would have more sympathy. I'm not buying the rumor he is sleeping with groupies. It is just another thing to make him look bad. Hell, Stevie has probably slept with more people. Lindsey seems sort of sensitive to me and a little conservative.

PS. When you say bad things about Lindsey, it makes me want to say bad things about Stevie and I love Stevie. I just think he gets talked about like he is subhuman. Not fair.

[missundercover]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

They should title the next album, "Say You Won't".

I'm all for it!!

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

I just think that a lot people will come up with things to make Lindsey look bad. He has been pretty admirable for putting up with all the BS. Maybe if he became a big drug addict or joined a cult people would have more sympathy. I'm not buying the rumor he is sleeping with groupies. It is just another thing to make him look bad. Hell, Stevie has probably slept with more people. Lindsey seems sort of sensitive to me and a little conservative.

PS. When you say bad things about Lindsey, it makes me want to say bad things about Stevie and I love Stevie. I just think he gets talked about like he is subhuman. Not fair.

You just summarized the story of my ledgelife. I've almost been banned over here a long time ago because of the fact I was unable to let go of the total unfairness. In the process, I became a unfair myself. Totally not my style. But I've been there, and every now and then I get
seduced by - basicly - Stevieworshipdom-anddumber. Not smart enough myself I guess. You're smarter. You express what happens to you before you rave in a rant against Stevie, what I've been doing, while I love her.

[pauls90]

I mean - I'm not really sure what else Lindsey needs. Large arenas are being almost if not completely sold out at crazy high ticket prices.

There was lots of buzz in the media about Christine's return - plus Stevie has been EVERYWHERE. The band is definitely on the general public's consciousness right now.

I honestly feel like they need to release the album within a year as the iron is hot - but if Lindsey wants more "clamoring" then they NEED to start social media campaigns. It's frustrating because it wouldn't really be that hard to do. One of them should just hire and intern and that would be a fantastic start.

[MikeInNV]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

PS. When you say bad things about Lindsey, it makes me want to say bad things about Stevie and I love Stevie. I just think he gets talked about like he is subhuman. Not fair.

This is what drives me crazy about the Ledge. One member's fan base getting back at another's by insulting the other band member. You're right that it's not fair to talk about Lindsey like he is subhuman, but how is it fair for you to insult STEVIE for something SOMEONE ELSE said about LINDSEY? It makes no sense. None.

I'm glad there are forum rules dictating respect for all Ledgies, but honestly sometimes I think that's why some of the posts smack of a mentality like "Well I can't call you a **** so I'll just p*ss you off by calling your favorite band member one."