Prince Charles calls for 'ban' on McDonald's

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by carrie721

i eat cereal on occasion, too, but i only eat bread these days if i have a sandwich at work. and then, it's only half a sandwich, because two pieces of bread is, like, 240 calories. it's crazy. so i take one piece of bread, put some turkey, colby, tomato, lettuce, mustard, and a smidge (smidge!) of mayo, and it's 300 cals. perfecto.

that's awesome. I have really cut down on the amount of bread I eat, but I'm such a bread whore. it's really hard...but I'm getting there. I'm trying to eat whole wheat wraps instead with spicy mustard instead of mayo.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

that's awesome. I have really cut down on the amount of bread I eat, but I'm such a bread whore. it's really hard...but I'm getting there. I'm trying to eat whole wheat wraps instead with spicy mustard instead of mayo.

bread was hard for me to drop too. and i love those wraps. i found these great 50 cal ones a while back, and they're delish. don't buy manny's, though, those are nazzty.

mm, spicy mustard. love.

[sparky]

Sheebus. Carrie will probably explain this, but it's not that tough. A few eggs for breakfast (toss in a few veggies and crushed garlic to spice em up), plus a good granola bar, or fruit, plus a bunch of water with the coffee or tea is plenty of breakfast. You can put a bunch of crap in a salad - tomatoes, black beans, chick peas, carrots, olives, some cheese, sunflower seeds, chunks of chicken, etc. Also, those fake chicken patties, with a big assed bowl of steamed vegetables and about 16 ounces of water oughta keep anyone's trap shut for 3-4 hours.

This stuff isn't impossible. About the best lunch I have is half a can of black beans with salsa and garlic tossed in, plus a tuna sandwich. Tuna has fat free mayo and spices in it. ****loads of protein, about 400 calories. I'm stuffed for 3 hours easy. I drink at least 2 glasses of water so the whole mess swells up and I am totally full. It's delicious. About my favorite meal ever.

I suspect I am wasting my breath, but I'm not trying to be hostile. I hear this crap from friends and family all the time about essentially not wanting to be deprived of their salt and grease and starch. As if those are food groups. I mean, I love my pizza and french fries as much as anyone. I just don't want to be a big fat assed 40 year old guy with a beer belly. I don't wanna live in that body and god knows no one is gonna want to see it naked. Can't have both. It's ultimately kind of funny, I suppose. Like I told my sister, "Eat all you want, whenever you want, just shut up about how fat you are already. And quit making fun of me for going to the gym or I won't send you a get well card when you have a heart attack."

Of course she told me to fukc off, then we laughed.

She cool like dat.

As far as McDonald's goes, of course it's **** food. Most people know that.
Not everyone does, but most. But if people wanna slurp trash down their gullets they're gonna. If they couldn't get McD's they'd go home and make fried chicken. What all that strip farming for those infernal "future burger" cows in Central and South America is doing to the planet is another ugly story entirely.

I think Supersize Me shoulda been called, "Take your golden arches and dig your grave."

[skcin]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

*applauds*


Oh and I forgot to mention...I grew up on McDonalds. My grandma took me there aaaall the time, I don't know how I was not an obese child..but anyway...I'll always have a soft spot for Quarter Pounders with Cheese.

Me too.

Originally Posted by chiliD

In a way, yes, in a way, no.

If they'd put healthy items on their $1 menu, then I'd say that they're making strides. But, when the cheapest "health-conscious" item on the menu is $3.99, that makes it prohibitive for people who can't afford anything more than whatever's on the $1 menu.

So, in their view, only people who are in the moderate & higher income & can be healthy, but poor people aren't worthy of healthy eating.

Great point. it can't cost that much more to make a grilled chicken sandwich than a double cheeseburger.

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

You make an excellent point, Steve.

Although it must be said that "health food" is, in general, more expensive than less healthy food.
That doesn't make it right, of course, but it's not something that's exclusive to McDonald's.

Bull****. Fresh fruits & veggies, lean meats, pasta (even the whole grain kind) etc. are way cheaper per serving than convenience foods, snack foods, and ready made stuff.

And if you want fast and healthy, go to Subway - made fresh, much healthier for the most part. Right now it's $3.99 for a 6 inch sub, a small bag of chips and a pop. So get a turkey with tons of veggies, mustard instead of mayo, a bag of baked chips & a diet pop. Same price (actually, a bit cheaper, if I recall) than most McD's valu meals.

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

I always take the onions out. I don't ask for "no onions" though because I like the ghost flavor of the onions, without the actual onions

I like McDonalds..I won't hide it anymore, once in a while it's a nice treat, their fries are, by far, my favorite.

Burger King is ok...but McD's is my preferred bad food...I'm sure nostalgia plays some part in that.

Haha! Ghost flavor. I do the same thing.

Originally Posted by carrie721

absolutely.

the idea that healthy food is expensive is ridiculous. if you don't buy food that's prepackaged, preportioned, and processed, you can eat cheaply and healthfully.

Originally Posted by carrie721

well, naturally those specific diets are going to be more expensive. you should go on the "carrie eats healthy for $20/week" diet. i'm serious, it works.

Yeah!

Originally Posted by amber

....I actually don't know anyone who eats "twigs", and I like berries a lot.

One of the Kashi cereals lists "twigs" as one of the ingredients, I swear to God. Obviously, they're not really twigs (I don't think) but they look like it & they're crunchy. It's damn good too.

Originally Posted by markolas

You don't buy cereal or bread??? What are you eating for breakfast? A granola bar? I'd pass out before 10am if that's all I had! Seriously, if all I had to eat in a day was a granola bar, a salad, and a fake chicken patty, I would not be able to function. And I'd probably be fired from my job because I strangled the first person who tried to talk to me.

Originally Posted by sparky

Sheebus. Carrie will probably explain this, but it's not that tough. A few eggs for breakfast (toss in a few veggies ans crushed garlic to spice em up), plus a good granola bar, or fruit, plus a bunch of water with the coffee or tea is plenty of breakfast. You can put a bunch of crap in a salad - tomatoes, black beans, chick peas, carrots, olives, some cheese, sunflower seeds, chunks of chicken, etc. Also, those fake chicken patties, with a big assed bowl of steamed vegetables and about 16 ounces of water oughta keep anyone's trap shut for 3-4 hours.

This stuff isn't impossible. About the best lunch I have is half a can of black beans with salsa and garlic tossed in, plus a tuna sandwich. Tuna has fat free mayo and spices in it. ****loads of protein, about 400 calories. I'm stuffed for 3 hours easy. I drink at least 2 glasses of water so the whole mess swells up and I am totally full. It's delicious. About my favorite meal ever.

I suspect I am wasting my breath, but I'm not trying to be hostile. I hear this crap from friends and family all the time about essentially not wanting to be deprived of their salt and grease and starch. As if those are food groups. I mean, I love my pizza and french fires as much as anyone. I just don't want to be a big fat assed 40 year old guy with a beer belly. I don't wanna live in that body and god knows no one is gonna want to see it naked. Can't have both. It's ultimately kind of funny, I suppose. Like I told my sister, "Eat all you want, whenever you want, just shut up about how fat you are already. And quit making fun of me for going to the gym or I won't send you a get well card when you have a heart attack."

Of course she told me to fukc off, then we laughed.

She cool like dat.

As far as McDonald's goes, of course it's **** food. Most people know that.
Not everyone does, but most. But if people wanna slurp trash down their gullets they're gonna. If they couldn't get McD's they'd go home and make fried chicken. What all that strip farming for those infernal "future burger" cows in Central and South America is doing to the planet is another ugly story entirely.

I think Supersize Me shoulda been called, "Take your golden arches and dig your grave."

The biggest change (and improvement) in my diet was to ditch most carbs in the morning. I credit Amber with reminding me that I probably wasn't getting enough protein in the am, and that's why I was hungry again within an hour or two. If I do have a carb/bread product, it's "light" or "high fiber" or fortified with protien.

I used to have a bowl of raisin bran - high in fiber, but way too much sugar & simple starch. Now I'll have a Weight Watchers bagel with a bit of peanut butter, or my own "Egg McMuffin" - a light Eng. muffin, 3 egg whites (they're equal to 1 whole egg as far as calories go) a slice of 2% cheese & a slice of ham if I have some handy. Same amount of calories (or a bit less) than before, but I'm not hungry for at least 3 or 4 hours.

BTW - I think everyone loves French fires, they're so much cozier than American ones.

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by skcin

Now I'll have a Weight Watchers bagel

Can you bring me some when you come up? I can't find the god damn things here. Stupid Canada

[amber]

Originally Posted by carrie721

it is the carrie diet. and yours is the amber diet.

Obviously I meant for any and all marketing purposes. Don't care what you call it in the privacy of your own head.

Just a random note - A lot of people have a wheat allergy and don't know it, also the gluten in wheat isn't really cool to digest, it's problematic. I notice people think "whole wheat" things are good - they probably aren't. I don't have the scientific info at my fingertips, but i can get it. And essentially it rarely has much more fiber than white bread, and the nutrients are still stripped by processing. Yes, we all grew up thinking "whole wheat" was a great idea. No.
I buy sprouted grain bread. It's very healthy. The brand I buy is Ezekial bread. $2.50/loaf. More scientific info about sprouted grain bread, again not right at my fingertips. I can say without consulting my research that it has more fiber and protein and nutrients, and less cals. Oh, and wait, I think it just went up to 2.99/loaf. Still.

[HomerMcvie]

I've lost 8 lbs on my own "starvation diet". I can go most of the day without eating(okay, it should be noted that I'm a vampire, and get up about 1PM, and don't go to bed til about 5AM). If I must have something before dinner(about 7-8PM), I'll the the above mentioned "one slice sandwich". One slice of Aldi's Oat Bran bread, with some turkey ham, and yes, the smallest amount of mayo that I can convince myself to put on there.
For dinner, I've been alternating between healthy one night(ex-chicken, veggies and rice), and something I WANT to eat, the next night(watching the portion, though!). And I've been okay with this, so far.

The HARDEST part is not eating anything late night. Oh Gawd I can't tell you how hard that is!!! I've got some peanuts here, so I'll have like TEN peanuts, just to feel SOMETHING in my stomach!

[Sarah]

if i go to mcdonald's, i get the 3 piece chicken selects with tangy honey mustard. that is the best honey mustard anywhere. i really get the chicken just so i can use the HM.

and i'm not big on fries unless they're ultra golden brown & crispy, coated, or curly fries.

i'm big on the starvation diet, too, but mainly because nothing ever appeals to me anymore. blah.

[Johnny Stew]

I don't eat a lot of snack foods. I might have some Snyder's BBQ chips on occasion (the ONLY potato chips that are worth eating, but they're only sold around here). I might have some chocolate chip cookies once in a while, too.
But it's not typical for me to eat a lot of those kinds of things. In fact, when I want a little snack, I usually reach for pretzels or sunflower seeds, believe it or not.

I do, however, eat greasy pepperoni pizza. I eat fried chicken. I eat meatloaf and lasagna and bacon-wrapped steaks and tacos. And so on.
And, yeah, I know there's a healthier way to make most of those things -- but I haven't found a healthier way to prepare them that tastes the way my mother cooks, or the way my grandmother used to.

I'm glad others can do it. Honestly. And more power to you.
Myself, I prefer the taste of the bad-for-you stuff. Fried. Fatty. Greasy. That **** tastes GOOD... which is why even the most health-conscious person craves it. I've never met a person who craves rice cakes.

Mind you, I don't complain about gaining weight. I acknowledge that I have, and I acknowledge the fact that it would, obviously, be healthier for me to lose it. I also acknowledge that I do feel better when I weigh about 20lbs less than I am now. (Ironically, when I was younger, I was ultra-skinny no matter what I ate -- to the point that people commented on it ALL the time. But I've turned a corner with my metabolism.)

Life is so short, and I already don't smoke, do drugs, drink alcohol excessively, or sleep around... so I've got to have some fun, right?

[sparky]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I've never met a person who craves rice cakes.

I am totally jonesing for white cheddar rice cakes now. But we've never met.

[ontheEdgeof17]

^I love White Cheddar Rice Cakes! I can eat the whole bag in one sitting.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I don't eat a lot of snack foods. I might have some Snyder's BBQ chips on occasion (the ONLY potato chips that are worth eating, but they're only sold around here). I might have some chocolate chip cookies once in a while, too.
But it's not typical for me to eat a lot of those kinds of things. In fact, when I want a little snack, I usually reach for pretzels or sunflower seeds, believe it or not.

I do, however, eat greasy pepperoni pizza. I eat fried chicken. I eat meatloaf and lasagna and bacon-wrapped steaks and tacos. And so on.
And, yeah, I know there's a healthier way to make most of those things -- but I haven't found a healthier way to prepare them that tastes the way my mother cooks, or the way my grandmother used to.

Wait, I don't think anyone told you to diet, did they? Did I miss something? I thought one of the discussions here was that McD's is cheap & easy, and that you said healthy foods are more expensive, so it's harder to eat well. Bacon wrapped steaks are cheaper than chicken? Lasagna is cheaper than pasta with veggies? Pretzels and chips are cheaper than fruit?

I'm not trying to harp on you, Stew. I eat all of the things you've mentioned, but either not as often as I used to, or in a smaller portion, or made healthier. I don't think anyone can completely eliminate these types of food from their diet. But to say that healthy food is too expensive is just a copout. If you want to eat this way, go for it. But don't turn around & say "but it's so affordable!"

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by sparky

I am totally jonesing for white cheddar rice cakes now. But we've never met.

The white cheddar rice cakes have 160 mgs of sodium as opposed to only 3 mgs in the regular ones.
If you had to watch your sodium, you couldn't eat them.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by skcin

Wait, I don't think anyone told you to diet, did they? Did I miss something?

No, they didn't. And I didn't think I implied that anyone did.

Originally Posted by skcin

I thought one of the discussions here was that McD's is cheap & easy, and that you said healthy foods are more expensive, so it's harder to eat well. Bacon wrapped steaks are cheaper than chicken? Lasagna is cheaper than pasta with veggies? Pretzels and chips are cheaper than fruit?

You might have missed it, but I explained that my "healthy foods are more expensive" comment was in reference to the "easy" half of "cheap & easy." if you don't have a lot of time (or the ability) to cook, buying the "easy" foods is definitely more expensive than the less healthy alternatives.

And, no, bacon-wrapped steaks aren't cheaper than chicken, but I also mentioned that I'm not fond enough of chicken to want to eat it more than once a week. If that often.
Of course, I don't eat those steaks more than once a week either. Hell, not even more than twice a month. But they're among the "unhealthy" things I love to eat.

Originally Posted by skcin

I'm not trying to harp on you, Stew. I eat all of the things you've mentioned, but either not as often as I used to, or in a smaller portion, or made healthier. I don't think anyone can completely eliminate these types of food from their diet. But to say that healthy food is too expensive is just a copout. If you want to eat this way, go for it. But don't turn around & say "but it's so affordable!"

If anyone thought that I said I eat the way that I do because I can't afford to eat healthier, that wasn't the impression I meant to give.
That comment was in regards to chiliD's mention that the healthier foods on McDonald's menu are more expensive than the unhealthy ones, and I was only adding that the healthier "EASY" foods are always more expensive.

I have cut down on the size of my portions, and I've also eliminated my "midnight snack" -- but so far, after four weeks, I haven't seen any changes. Now that the weather is getting better, I'll start walking again. Maybe that'll help.
Beyond that, I'm not busting my balls to be fit and thin.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

The white cheddar rice cakes have 160 mgs of sodium as opposed to only 3 mgs in the regular ones.
If you had to watch your sodium, you couldn't eat them.

Thankfully I don't have sodium problems. Then I wouldn't be eating em.
At this point I am just focused on not being fat.