Mick Fleetwood wants the LB/SN rift to heal

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Careful, they get offended easily, and will call for your ouster from the Ledge!

Hey, now. They’re not the only ones who are easily offended or calling for ousters.

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

How about this.....

Christine to Stevie: Stevie dear. When you called me to come back to this band I was excited to work with everyone again. I did not sign up for this bloody, childish nonsense. We are not in our 20s and 30s and have so little time left. Stop playing the victim. We will talk to Lindsey about his crap. You can ignore him every day and every night but we need to do this as our final act. Do it for for yourself. If not for me then do it for the world!

Maybe she *did* say all that. Like 20 times lol. (although i don't think Stevie called her back to the band...? that seems to have been a decision made on her own with probably a lot of support from John and Mick...) But in that BBC thing she seemed a little pissy that nothing had really changed between L and S. I bet she was hoping they'd somehow magically get their sh*t together as much as we were hoping for it. Instead it was just the same sh*t, different day.

--Lis

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by soul_drifter333

You made some valid points, but that very drama made the band millionaires. Not only that, the band milked and chased the L&S drama all the way to the end. No doubt if they were still together L&S would still be milking it. So can they really have it both ways or did it end up comsuming them?

good question. maybe stevie had just reached an age and a status where she was emotionally exhausted by years and years of that neverending drama. maybe lindsey said/did some stuff that we don't know about, that was waaay over the top in her opinion? and she knew by then she had the power to give ultimatums and be heard. i don't know.

i've always felt that the more i find out about these people, the more questions I have.


--Lis

[aleuzzi]

Here’s the thing: even if there is a Mick-Lindsey-Stevie reunion (I’m not imaging John is game), and even if it gets a lot of press and the three of them make money, it’s still going to sound pretty bad. Neither Lindsey nor Stevie sing well anymore in a live context (nor could Christine after 2016), and the music which we remember as rousing and passionate would be dismally sluggish and anemic.

Please, they need to just say good night.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Here’s the thing: even if there is a Mick-Lindsey-Stevie reunion (I’m not imaging John is game), and even if it gets a lot of press and the three of them make money, it’s still going to sound pretty bad. Neither Lindsey nor Stevie sing well anymore in a live context (nor could Christine after 2016), and the music which we remember as rousing and passionate would be dismally sluggish and anemic.

Please, they need to just say good night.

Just to add, for me, Fleetwood Mac was completely fatiguing and uninteresting after SYW through 2012, when there was an inkling Christine maybe possibly might have been contemplating a return. A year later, she was in Hawaii, and year after that, she was back in Fleetwood Mac (after having made cameos).

I was disappointed that Lindsey was let go, but I was happy that they added two great musicians. I’m happy seeing the Knobs and Crowded House, who have some shred of creativity and vibrancy. A McVie-less Buckingham Nicks dba Fleetwood Mac “reunion” would be nauseating and the ultimate trashing of the band’s legacy.

[secret love]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Just to add, for me, Fleetwood Mac was completely fatiguing and uninteresting after SYW through 2012, when there was an inkling Christine maybe possibly might have been contemplating a return. A year later, she was in Hawaii, and year after that, she was back in Fleetwood Mac (after having made cameos).

I was disappointed that Lindsey was let go, but I was happy that they added two great musicians. I’m happy seeing the Knobs and Crowded House, who have some shred of creativity and vibrancy. A McVie-less Buckingham Nicks dba Fleetwood Mac “reunion” would be nauseating and the ultimate trashing of the band’s legacy.

Agree 100%
The thing is Stevie and Lindsey can kiss and make up and perform at each other's solo shows, as they have been for decades up until 2018. No need for a Fleetwood Mac Say You Will Line-up reunion for that.

I personally think it would be great for the two (Buckingham and Nicks) to make up and perform one more time, even just a song or two.

Anger is a poison. And Stevie (and Lindsey, but less so) have been drinking from that poisoned cup for far too long.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I was disappointed that Lindsey was let go,

but I was happy that they added two great musicians. I’m happy seeing the Knobs and Crowded House, who have some shred of creativity and vibrancy. A McVie-less Buckingham Nicks dba Fleetwood Mac “reunion” would be nauseating and the ultimate trashing of the band’s legacy.

Are you fukcing serious? You've reveled in the fact that Lindsey was replaced with with Petty/ Crowded. Now you're DISAPPOINTED? What the actual F?

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Hey, now. They’re not the only ones who are easily offended or calling for ousters.

#Facts
Those with glass jaws should never enter the ring

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

Maybe she *did* say all that. Like 20 times lol. (although i don't think Stevie called her back to the band...? that seems to have been a decision made on her own with probably a lot of support from John and Mick...) But in that BBC thing she seemed a little pissy that nothing had really changed between L and S. I bet she was hoping they'd somehow magically get their sh*t together as much as we were hoping for it. Instead it was just the same sh*t, different day.

--Lis

Yeah maybe. But I suspect Mick was the mediator between her manager and the band. Its pathetic she could not explain her position to the band and made her manager do it. If she could not face the band and explain her position then no way in hell anyone would have access to her to sit her down. Their fear was she would leave the band and watch 70% of the touring profits go down the drain.
Really sad when you think about it.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Are you fukcing serious? You've reveled in the fact that Lindsey was replaced with with Petty/ Crowded. Now you're DISAPPOINTED? What the actual F?

Yes.

It is possible to have two thoughts at the same time.

I wasn’t happy to see Lindsey go, but I was happy they brought in two viable, credible musicians whose works speak for themselves.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

But I suspect Mick was the mediator between her manager and the band.

Hard to say.

The fact that Azoff was Lindsey’s manager going into negotiations and the lead manager for the band played a much larger role in what happened than anything Mick could have mediated.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Just to add, for me, Fleetwood Mac was completely fatiguing and uninteresting after SYW through 2012, when there was an inkling Christine maybe possibly might have been contemplating a return. A year later, she was in Hawaii, and year after that, she was back in Fleetwood Mac (after having made cameos).

I was disappointed that Lindsey was let go, but I was happy that they added two great musicians. I’m happy seeing the Knobs and Crowded House, who have some shred of creativity and vibrancy. A McVie-less Buckingham Nicks dba Fleetwood Mac “reunion” would be nauseating and the ultimate trashing of the band’s legacy.

Adding those “two great musicians” did nothing to hold my interest. They should have stopped touring then and there. Since it was clear no new album carrying the band’s name was forthcoming, the Rumours five should have considered MusiCares their swan song…

Any reunion or partial reunion will bore me to tears.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Adding those “two great musicians” did nothing to hold my interest. Since it was clear no new album carrying the band’s name was forthcoming, the Rumours five should have considered MusiCares their swan song…

The 2018 lineup of Fleetwood Mac debuted its new songs The Chain and Gypsy on Ellen one month before the tour began and Second Hand News at the iheartradio festival before the tour began!

[David]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Adding those “two great musicians” did nothing to hold my interest.

Tony, something just crystalized for me. This message board has been entertaining me more than the actual band for the last 30 years.

I don't mean deep and abiding entertainment, but I've been checking out this forum with more anticipation than that stupid band. The drama here must be a little more amusing than the drama there. Or maybe the revolving members here are more interesting than the revolving members there.

[Street_Dreamer]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Adding those “two great musicians” did nothing to hold my interest. They should have stopped touring then and there.

As much as I love Billy, the only way the band should have ended by doing nothing and giving fans a pithy goodbye or by touring or with Christine, Lindsey and Stevie. This wasn't like all the times where Fleetwood Mac kept going because that's what the band always did. There hadn't been a new album for 20 years and it was clear the whole charade was done to placate one member of the band who shouldn't have had the power to force such decisions. But it's all done and in the past and in the end, we the fans got the shaft (again).

As frustrating as it is, it's also fitting. A grand opportunity to celebrate one of the greatest bands just whizzed down the leg.