The Chick Fil A Flap

[olive]

Originally Posted by QueenStevie

Allowing same-sex marriage is really a MAJOR Slap in the Face to God! It's VERY Hurtful to Him. So, we serve God's interest when we don't allow same-sex marriage to take place. And that's the deal with that!

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by QueenStevie

DISLIKE Button on repeat!

Do you really not want your fellow human beings to be happy?
To not have the rights that you do?
To love, marry, have children, and have spousal benefits?


Take a look in the mirror...
Be prepared, though, because it ain't pretty.

[olive]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Do you really not want your fellow human beings to be happy?
To not have the rights that you do?
To love, marry, have children, and have spousal benefits?


Take a look in the mirror...
Be prepared, though, because it ain't pretty.

Well put .

some of them ( i don't use or like the word haters) have children , which I am sure they have no Idea who they will be when they grow up .

now one of the biggest groups chick fil a supports want to start saving the children adopted by gays and lesbians by kidnapping them .. what will they do with them give them to the Sandusky's ? they need to look in their own back yards and see how they are doing on raising their own

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by QueenStevie

Allowing same-sex marriage is really a MAJOR Slap in the Face to God! It's VERY Hurtful to Him.

Is this what he told you? Do tell...

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Where is Dissension when you need him

away from here, that is for sure...

[1sttimelongtime]

This is the best thread ever!

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

There really is no debate here. You can't make a case based on fact, logic, reason and humanity when the counter-argument is based purely on ancient stories that have been re-transcribed and (mis-)interpreted a gazillion times through the years or on fabricated pseudo-science funded by hate groups. There is a reason why, time and time again, the defenders of "traditional marriage" have lost every court case and every appeal that they have pushed: one cannot defend the indefensible. It's time to move beyond the useless debates and start effecting policy- through either legislative or judicial means. Who cares what the public may or may not think about an issue that is 150% a personal decision made between two consenting adults that does not affect anyone else in the slightest. History has proven time and time again that society is better off when civil rights are strengthened for all people.

I agree. No debate here. You have no idea what are talking about.

[Macfanforever]

I dont need a book to run my life like some of these people do.I run it on my own.I do support same sex marriage .As I say let the people do what they want to.Don't let these
thumpers stop them.I have read that the corrupt insurance companies are up in arms about the same sex marriage .But they got to get over it.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Do you really not want your fellow human beings to be happy?
To not have the rights that you do?
To love, marry, have children, and have spousal benefits?


Take a look in the mirror...
Be prepared, though, because it ain't pretty.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

I truly hope I might actually get them to self-reflect, and see how bigoted, and narrow minded their view of Christianity is. How very UN-christ like they are.

Because Christ was bigoted and hate filled, right?

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

And unfortunately you just proved mine.
One day you will have to stand before Jesus,
the one you openly mock.

Louielouie,
The reason I asked Hejira that was because of
what he wrote. I wasn't going to even comment
this time in this particular thread. But in trying
to make his point, he always puts down Christian
beliefs.

And even though you and I (and others) disagree
on this issue, at least some do so in a more civil manner.

I believe it's more than just Christians trying to control
the way others live. It affects us too. Since God punishes
sin, we believe that we also will be punished for allowing
it (gay marriage, homosexual rights) to be legal, at least
in the eyes of man.

We all sin, I certainly do. That why our only hope is Christ
Jesus.

Well this was wonderful. The spectacle on this thread of backslapping for each others' ignorance about both the Constitution and the Bible is troubling, sad, and probably makes me more upset than it should, so I applaud you for pointing out both. You and I may disagree on certain subjects ("homosexual rights"), but I respect that you--as some on this board have requested--have tested your "vote" against the Constitution and your conscience with more rigour than those who bandy about the Constitution the way they perceive some exploiting the Bible.

[KarmaContestant]

Christians are, at most, one third of the world. I'm not a Christian, Muslim or Jew and their traditions and rules don't apply to me.

I don't use my faith to influence your rights and privileges - don't do it to me.

As an American, I feel that your practice of your faith should never impact me and vice-versa.

At one time in history, Christians were persecuted and ridiculed - it is perhaps an ironic but all too common twist of fate that the formerly persecuted have become the perpetrators.

To some Christians, marriage may very well have strict definitions, but many of us are Human first and foremost - capable of human understanding and compassion, living in a secular nation where all are equal and our laws guarantee protection and equality for all, regardless of faith. The issue at hand here for people like me is just simply not a religious one - it is entirely a civil issue. In America, legal marriage is a civic function governed by law - not by Divine decree. We've talked about this before. Whatever involvement God has in a marriage is determined solely by the two individuals in that marriage.

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

I agree. No debate here.

And you're right, TrueFaith77, there is no debate here. I mean this as nicely as possible, but one cannot debate certain things with religious people - they are never swayed and always fall back on the same dogma, over and over, rendering any debate a vain waste of time and energy for both sides. So you're right - this is not debate - rather, it is shared dialogue, from a group that largely agrees and falls on the same side of an issue.

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

[TrueFaith77]

Some would say, such as Libertarians and me (for different reasons), that such a thing as "legal marriage [that] is a civic function governed by law" constitutes something that some people believe in (I presume you, KarmaContestant, are one such person), and that they (you) are using the force of government "to influence [my] rights and privileges."

Why should my taxpayer money go toward maintaining and facilitating the institution of legal marriage (regardless of how it is defined)?

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

Why should my taxpayer money go toward maintaining and facilitating the institution of legal marriage (regardless of how it is defined)?

I know you weren't talking to me but how is your tax paying money maintaining and facilitating same sex marriage?

As a licensed therapist who agrees to work with children (I love working with children), I can't even tell you how close I am to saying I won't do it anymore. Why? Because I am sick to DEATH of fighting, divorced parents. I spent 8 hours in court on Tuesday in a custody case, as an "expert witness" when I could have been in my office, doing therapy. We Christian/heterosexuals are not doing such a great job in the marriage arena.