This makes me see red! What is wrong with these people?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by amber

As long as you do what I say, you can be in denial all you want, because it's evident to anyone who wants to check that you are a** enough to:
1. make something up,
2. insult me with it,
3. not admit that you made it up, and then
4. not apologize.

You answered, by the way. To really not take this "bait" you seem to think is happening, you wouldn't answer at all, you'd move on with your life and actually read my posts in the future. I understand that you're so hot to insult me that you may want to make things up; you have done that a few times before. But I still want it to stop. Seriously, you are hilarious.

It's funny how with everyone else you debate, you say things like: "If am wrong I will readily admit it, but I do not think I am" and act all nice, but with me, it seems to be the worst thing in the world that you could have possibly made a mistake. Do you have a thing with poor people, or women, or something, correcting you? Or non lawyers? Or just me? It's actually kind of fascinating, I can't imagine why I get this "special treatment". Could it mean that your ego is somehow more threatened when I find out you are wrong? I can't imagine why it would make a difference that it is me, but it sure seems to.
Anywhoo, musings on what is an obvious personal reluctance to admit I am right, and conversely that you were wrong, while talking to me. Baffling.

Oooooo that bait is stale by now

[amber]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Oooooo that bait is stale by now

Wow - do you really believe I said something about myself? Is that why you call this bait?
My first post wasn't even controversial, I was just pointing something out. I guess the fact that you can't admit you made a mistake is what makes it "bait"? Because otherwise it is just "a post". Seriously, what is it about me that makes you incapable of admitting you made a mistake?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by amber

Wow - do you really believe I said something about myself? Is that why you call this bait?
My first post wasn't even controversial, I was just pointing something out. I guess the fact that you can't admit you made a mistake is what makes it "bait"? Because otherwise it is just "a post". Seriously, what is it about me that makes you incapable of admitting you made a mistake?

stale stale stale stale stale

[Moony]

Originally Posted by amber

THanks moon! Cool, yeah?

Totally rad

Now stop it you two or you're getting a spankin'

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by Moony

Totally rad

Now stop it you two or you're getting a spankin'

funny you say that...I was just rummaging to find my paddle!

[amber]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

stale stale stale stale stale

wrong wrong wrong.

I think I'll start making up things you say, then insulting you about them.

[amber]

Just for review in case anyone missed it:

I said this:

Originally Posted by Amber

Just because someone doesn't want to be mindful of their shopping and consuming, doesn't mean there aren't viable ways to do so. And once again, every little bit helps. If you want to be very, very mindful, that can take some extra effort, but it's still possible. I read about socially/ecologically mindful companies quite a bit. But then, I'm the kind of person who looks for that, maybe you just haven't seen the same news as me.

Strand quoted the above, then said this:

Originally Posted by Strand

That is hypocritical in the sense that you do so when it suits you. For example, you support many an industry and company that does bad things. I mean you smoke for goodness sake (or at least you used to) - that industry is hardly angelic Moreover, you jetted off to Vegas with little care and no regard for the airline you used (some are way worse than others) as suggest you obtained the lowest price possible.

But, you can have the last word as I am not about to beat this horse to death because you have blinders on and want to sit there and preach about how good you are"

Yep, I was totally preaching about how good I am! With every word of my post!! It's all right here!
good times...

[BTFLCHLD]

id ask a question but youd bite my head off

[amber]

Originally Posted by Moony

I know, you're such an arrogant hag.

maybe other times, but not this one....
good to see you! Now where's my spanking???

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Funny how movies have a bigger impact than we would think. Look at Sideways. Now everyone is drinking Pinot and not Merlot. lol.

Omigod, "If anyone orders merlot, I AM OUT OF HERE!" That line was so funny.

[Moony]

Originally Posted by amber

maybe other times, but not this one....
good to see you! Now where's my spanking???

Well the stripper in bondage is on his way to your place right now.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Moony

Well the stripper in bondage is on his way to your place right now.

Same one as last time? Hurray!

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by amber

As long as you do what I say, you can be in denial all you want, because it's evident to anyone who wants to check that you are a** enough to:
1. make something up,
2. insult me with it,
3. not admit that you made it up, and then
4. not apologize.

You answered, by the way. To really not take this "bait" you seem to think is happening, you wouldn't answer at all, you'd move on with your life and actually read my posts in the future. I understand that you're so hot to insult me that you may want to make things up; you have done that a few times before. But I still want it to stop. Seriously, you are hilarious.

It's funny how with everyone else you debate, you say things like: "If am wrong I will readily admit it, but I do not think I am" and act all nice, but with me, it seems to be the worst thing in the world that you could have possibly made a mistake. Do you have a thing with poor people, or women, or something, correcting you? Or non lawyers? Or just me? It's actually kind of fascinating, I can't imagine why I get this "special treatment". Could it mean that your ego is somehow more threatened when I find out you are wrong? I can't imagine why it would make a difference that it is me, but it sure seems to.
Anywhoo, musings on what is an obvious personal reluctance to admit I am right, and conversely that you were wrong, while talking to me. Baffling.

um....he does it to me too.....so, you're not THAT special

[irishgrl]

yep I was totally preaching about how good I am! With every word of my post!! It's all right here!

actually, you did!

I read about socially/ecologically mindful companies quite a bit. But then, I'm the kind of person who looks for that, maybe you just haven't seen the same news as me.

do you drive a car? Gas companies are heinous....
most every retail giant is guilty of sweatshop labor practices overseas....
tobacco companies are heinous (glad you are smoke free now, thats great!)


I think Jason's point was that people IN GENERAL are guilty of hypocrisy because when push comes to shove a lot of people will push aside their beliefs for various reasons (I myself cant afford to shop as green as I would like)
and he gave examples that pertained to you in particular that seemed to show your hypocrisy (smoking, plane trip)
I dont know how accurate the examples are (apparently the smoking one is 4months too late!) but I think if you were honest with yourself, you could probably come up with examples that violate your personal code.
Groceries? all pretty much owned by big AG which forced all the small farmers out of business.
fibers/fabrics? Monsanto and Dupont are evil.
medicines? Ive heard many of those big name producers are more in the business of keeping us sick than they are helping us get healthy.

[amber]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

actually, you did!

No, I merely stated that I read a larger portion of enviro news than perhaps most, so maybe Strand hadn't seen the same information as I had. In fact, I never even made a value statement about that, either - You know, I didn't say I was better because of what I read.
Additionally, I never claimed or talked about what conservation/socially responsible actions I do or do not take. Not one mention.
I know what Jason's point was, I just don't want him to make up something I am talking about, then insult me about it. That's my point. And no, I don't drive a car, which is the first time I've mentioned anything about my habits here in this thread.
Also, I just want to add that many people are not hypocritical, and act according to what they believe even if it is more inconvenient than another choice. Some do in small ways, some in large. Thank goodness.