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strandinthewind · #91 10-26-2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

BTW. Did you know that Ann never said that Max Cleland WASN'T a hero. At least I get the comments that come out of Ann's mouth...right!

No, she just said he was lucky to get his limbs blown off in Vietnam as opposed to elsewhere. And where were W and Cheney at this time

But and in any event, here is what she said, though she said other things as well:

Coulter countered that Cleland is no Vietnam war hero, just a victim of a tragic, accidental grenade explosion who plays up his amputations for political gain.

“If Cleland had dropped a grenade on himself at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. Senator in the first place. Maybe he’d be the best pharmacist in Atlanta,” Coulter said in her column, published on February 11.

“He didn't ‘give his limbs for his country,’ or leave them ‘on the battlefield,’” Coulter said. “There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on himself with no enemy troops in sight.”

http://www.11alive.com/news/news_art...?storyid=42941

Again, everyone in Nam was a hero as opposed to the AWOL W and "better things to do" Cheney

Also - just to make you look like more of a moron than you make yourself look like:

The 2nd of the 12th Cavalry was engaged in a combat operation at the time of this incident. Max Cleland was with the Battalion Forward Command Post in heavy combat involving the attack of the 1st Cavalry Division up the valley to relieve the Marines who were besieged and surrounded at the Khe Shan Firebase. The whole surrounding area was an active combat zone (some might call the entire country of Vietnam a combat zone). (Is Iraq a combat zone?) Max, the Battalion Signal Officer, was engaged in a combat mission I personally ordered to increase the effectiveness of communications between the battalion combat forward and rear support elements: e.g. Erect a radio relay antenna on a mountain top. By the way, at one point the battalion rear elements came under enemy artillery fire so everyone was in harms way.

As they were getting off the helicopter, Max saw the grenade on the ground and he instinctively went for it. Soldiers in combat don't leave grenades lying around on the ground. Later, in the hospital, he said he thought it was his own but I doubt the concept of "ownership" went through his mind in the split seconds involved in reaching for the grenade. Nearly two decades later another soldier came forward and admitted it was actually his grenade. Does ownership of the grenade really matter? It does not.

Maury Cralle'
Battalion Executive Officer
2d/12th Cavalry Battalion
1st Air Cavalry Division
During the assault on Khe Shan

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../con04074.html

and a google of "ann coulter max cleland" will reveal many more.

DavidMn · #92 10-26-2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I've yet to find an Ann Coulter crack to be funny. Though I can post the video of Alan Colmes handing her ass to her when she repeated it the same drivel on Hannity and Colmes for your viewing pleasure.

I'm glad I was given the chance to educate you.

I would love to see that!!!!

dissention · #93 10-26-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Jason must then. Because he is the only one I have ever heard say that Max Cleland wasn't a war hero.

Then you must pay attention to Manny when you read her.

"He was no hero. He blew himself up."

"Cleland was no war hero, but his sacrifice was great."

strandinthewind · #94 10-26-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I've yet to find an Ann Coulter crack to be funny. Though I can post the video of Alan Colmes handing her ass to her when she repeated it the same drivel on Hannity and Colmes for your viewing pleasure.

Please Daddy Please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is so rare to see that butt plug do anything but tickle Hannity's prostate and smile about it

dissention · #95 10-26-2005, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Please Daddy Please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is so rare to see that butt plug do anything but tickle Hannity's prostate and smile about it

http://movies.ziaspace.com/CoulterFoot1.wmv

strandinthewind · #96 10-26-2005, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Then you must pay attention to Manny when you read her.

"He was no hero. He blew himself up."

"Cleland was no war hero, but his sacrifice was great."

If I were there, you'd be smiling for a reason darlin'

BTW - wasn't everyone in Nam a hero? Isn't that the standard R line?

Brwn_eyes0511 · #97 10-26-2005, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I've yet to find an Ann Coulter crack to be funny. Though I can post the video of Alan Colmes handing her ass to her when she repeated it the same drivel on Hannity and Colmes for your viewing pleasure.

I have seen it.

I can post the one where Bob Beckel gets all "huffy" about her saying that democrats were racist! BEST LINE!...

BECKEL: You better be damn careful about using that word. I'll tell you something, I worked in the civil rights movement.

BECKEL: When you were sitting in your little schools up in New England.

BECKEL: I have no problem with her [Rice] because she's black. I have a problem with her because I don't think she's up to the job [of secretary of state]. Do not begin to say that people like me are racist when I spent a lot of time out in the vineyards on the civil rights movement.

COULTER: And you listen to jazz.

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I'm glad I was given the chance to educate you.

That, I hope, is a job for Ken!

strandinthewind · #98 10-26-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

http://movies.ziaspace.com/CoulterFoot1.wmv

I did not see it there

stargazer99 · #99 10-26-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Minorities are conditioned to rely on the government.

I'll tell that to my husband, who happens to be black. I'm sure he'll love your take on it. And you say most liberals are racist?

dissention · #**100** 10-26-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I did not see it there

Try this:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/02/18.html

EnchantedSLN · #**101** 10-26-2005, 07:36 PM

Oh please. Anyone who has used Photoshop knows that can happen when you apply sharpening and contrast filters (standard adjustments) to a small photo. I don't think she looks like a demon in the first photo anyway. (Actually, when I first opened the thread and saw the pictures I thought the second photo was the doctored one.) She's just ugly. Not their fault.

DavidMn · #**102** 10-26-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stargazer99

I'll tell that to my husband, who happens to be black. I'm sure he'll love your take on it. And you say most liberals are racist?

Yeah, he really didnt need to go there with that comment.

gldstwmn · #**103** 10-26-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Hazel O'Leary, Secretary of Energy.

Nice save. What about the Surgeon General that everyone freaked out about because she talked about masturbation? She was a black woman, no?

Brwn_eyes0511 · #**104** 10-26-2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Then you must pay attention to Manny when you read her.

"He was no hero. He blew himself up."

"Cleland was no war hero, but his sacrifice was great."

No you miss the point...

E-mail to New York Times ombudsman and letter to the editor, which the Times did not print...

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..."I simply pointed out that the same people who are demanding George Bush's dental records from his Alabama National Guard service are routinely "sexing up" Max Cleland's record in order to smear Bush's service and the National Guard. Liberals falsely claim Cleland lost his limbs in combat rather than in an accident. Fantastically enough, Stolberg actually quotes an academic in her article - Merle Black of Emory - who repeats the standard lie, claiming Cleland lost his limbs in "battle." My point was that the truth of Cleland's own accident demonstrates the bravery of all members of the military who routinely come into contact with ordnance."

- ANN COULTER

dissention · #**105** 10-26-2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

If I were there, you'd be smiling for a reason darlin'

BTW - wasn't everyone in Nam a hero? Isn't that the standard R line?

Only if you're a Republican who served in Nam. Or got daddy to wield his influence so that you were awarded a cushy job in the Air National guard, from which you could go AWOL from at your leisure and then tell the American people that you've seen war firsthand once you've stolen the White House.