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dissention · #91 12-16-2004, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I thought this was interesting and a little on point!!!!!!!!!!!!
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December 19, 2004
FRANK RICH
2004: The Year of 'The Passion'
By FRANK RICH

WILL it be the Jews' fault if "The Passion of the Christ," ignored by the Golden Globes this week, comes up empty in the Oscar nominations next month? Why, of course.

"Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular," William Donohue, president of the Catholic League, explained in a colloquy on the subject recently convened by Pat Buchanan on MSNBC. "It's not a secret, O.K.?" Mr. Donohue continued. "And I'm not afraid to say it. That's why they hate this movie. It's about Jesus Christ, and it's about truth." After the show's token (and conservative) Jewish panelist, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, pointed out that "Michael Moore is certainly not a Jew" and that Scorsese, Coppola and Lucas are not "Jewish names," Mr. Donohue responded: "I like Harvey Weinstein. How's that? Harvey Weinstein is my friend."

Donohue? He doesn't know **** about **** and he's crazier than ****house rat.

Methinks he's greatly exaggerating what it's like in Hollywood, but that's just me. I don't think The Passion OR F9/11 will be Oscar contenders. I think Hollywood will shy away from both.

I was very pleased that The Passion was left out of the Golden Globes, too.

GypsySorcerer · #92 12-16-2004, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Donohue? He doesn't know **** about **** and he's crazier than ****house rat.

Methinks he's greatly exaggerating what it's like in Hollywood, but that's just me. I don't think The Passion OR F9/11 will be Oscar contenders. I think Hollywood will shy away from both.

I was very pleased that The Passion was left out of the Golden Globes, too.

Why haven't I heard of this Donohue guy? Is he really that prominent?

DrummerDeanna · #93 12-16-2004, 06:24 PM

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Why haven't I heard of this Donohue guy? Is he really that prominent?

Seriously -I've never heard of him either - seems he's a few bananas short of a bunch though....great - will he be the Catholic's Jerry Falwell??

GypsySorcerer · #94 12-16-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Seriously -I've never heard of him either - seems he's a few bananas short of a bunch though....great - will he be the Catholic's Jerry Falwell??

I hope not.

cliffdweller · #95 12-17-2004, 11:05 AM

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I think its fair to say thats the deadline for Lindsey's next solo album

~Alex

Yes, it will be his solo album that signals the apocalypse.

cliffdweller · #96 12-17-2004, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Well, there is and there is not

There is evidence of a HUGE event happening thousands of years ago (actually evidence exists to support a few such events over the last several million years) - Many think the event was an asteroid hitting the Earth and causing the Earth to shift a few degrees on her axis - thus causing the formerly floral Sarah Desert to form. Here are some sites - take them for what you will and there are more if you google, etc.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4168.asp

http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html

http://www.thinkquest.org/library/si...78/noahand.htm

http://www.icr.org/creationproducts/...th2FFlood.html

Again, there are MANY theories on this

Leave it to you to provide the links and a seven page biopic!!

SuzeQuze · #97 12-17-2004, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cliffdweller

Leave it to you to provide the links and a seven page biopic!!

For real, how DOES he do it?

strandinthewind · #98 12-17-2004, 11:30 AM

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I can't get my head around this. How can they beleive that Jews were put to death in camps but the holocaust didn't happen?

From what I can tell, they think Jews were killed in the camps (after all Gibson says that in that quote) - I think people take issue with what they perceive as the maginalizing of the Jews suffering. They say that yes the Jews suffered but so did everyone else. For some reason, this is perceived as denying the Holocause existed - ever. I do not get it, but it is a popular belief. They also take issue with the 6 million killed. They think it is less. Who knows for sure how many people were killed

But, most sources point to around 6 million. My point is everyone did suffer in WWII and Jews were not the only people in the camps - gay an other people were there as well.

This is such a touchy subject for alot of people. So, for the record - I think what Hitler did to the Jews, gay people, and Europe and the South Pacific was horrible on all levels. He was an evil maniac who persecuted the Jews and others and for that he can never be forgiven.

amber · #99 12-17-2004, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

From what I can tell, they think Jews were killed in the camps (after all Gibson says that in that quote) - I think people take issue with what they perceive as the maginalizing of the Jews suffering. They say that yes the Jews suffered but so did everyone else. For some reason, this is perceived as denying the Holocause existed - ever. I do not get it, but it is a popular belief. They also take issue with the 6 million killed. They think it is less. Who knows for sure how many people were killed

But, most sources point to around 6 million. My point is everyone did suffer in WWII and Jews were not the only people in the camps - gay an other people were there as well.

This is such a touchy subject for alot of people. So, for the record - I think what Hitler did to the Jews, gay people, and Europe and the South Pacific was horrible on all levels. He was an evil maniac who persecuted the Jews and others and for that he can never be forgiven.

The real bad part is that the U.S. didn't really have a gripe with Hitler, just that he was doing it so quickly. And we continued selling war machinery to them while we were fighting them. The business of capitalism must go on, y'know. And Henry Ford, who was a raging anti semite, built the engines for one of the germans top destructive bombs - neat-o!

DrummerDeanna · #**100** 12-17-2004, 01:03 PM

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The real bad part is that the U.S. didn't really have a gripe with Hitler, just that he was doing it so quickly. And we continued selling war machinery to them while we were fighting them. The business of capitalism must go on, y'know. And Henry Ford, who was a raging anti semite, built the engines for one of the germans top destructive bombs - neat-o!

Wow - really? Crazy...good thing I've never like Ford...blah...

amber · #**101** 12-17-2004, 01:11 PM

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Wow - really? Crazy...good thing I've never like Ford...blah...

yeah. We had just hoped Hitler would go on a slower, less obvious plan. Like "d'oh! you bombed Poland! be careful!" and then like "d'oh, you're in France!!?? ease up buddy!" And then, of course, he started bombing the **** out of England, so we had to care. Also, even though Russia was supposedly our ally during the war, and Germany et. al. our enemy, we did much more trade with Germany during those years. Also, during the Nuremburg trials, the people from the CIA (only i don't think it was called CIA then) hand picked the SS war criminal officers to head up our West German spy plans. So, really, the real higher ups weren't at that trial.

DrummerDeanna · #**102** 12-17-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

yeah. We had just hoped Hitler would go on a slower, less obvious plan. Like "d'oh! you bombed Poland! be careful!" and then like "d'oh, you're in France!!?? ease up buddy!" And then, of course, he started bombing the **** out of England, so we had to care. Also, even though Russia was supposedly our ally during the war, and Germany et. al. our enemy, we did much more trade with Germany during those years. Also, during the Nuremburg trials, the people from the CIA (only i don't think it was called CIA then) hand picked the SS war criminal officers to head up our West German spy plans. So, really, the real higher ups weren't at that trial.

Well - my surprise was intended soley for the Henry Ford part - but thanks for the expanded stuff

the WWII era is one of the most fascinating to me - I've always wanted to start reading more on it - just haven't gotten around to it yet

amber · #**103** 12-17-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Well - my surprise was intended soley for the Henry Ford part - but thanks for the expanded stuff

the WWII era is one of the most fascinating to me - I've always wanted to start reading more on it - just haven't gotten around to it yet

oops, TMI.

BTFLCHLD · #**104** 12-17-2004, 01:33 PM

I watched this last evening...and would recommend for those interested.

From Steven Spielberg and Survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation comes Broken Silence, a series of five films about human courage, heroism, and triumph over intense adversities during World War II. This critically acclaimed series was produced by Academy Award-winning filmmaker James Moll.

Some Who Lived

Argentine filmmaker Luis Puenzo (director of the Academy Award-winning film, The Official Story) directed this Spanish-language film, weaving together testimonies from Holocaust survivors now living in Argentina and Uruguay with archival and modern-day footage. Puenzo also explores the connections between Nazism and the darker chapters of Argentine history.

Eyes of the Holocaust

Director Janos Szasz, the son of Holocaust survivors, made this Hungarian-language documentary that focuses on the experiences of survivors who were children during the Holocaust.

Children from the Abyss

Russian Holocaust survivors detail their experiences of resistance, betrayal, collaborators, rescuers, bystanders and the desire for revenge. Directed by Pavel Chukhraj (Academy Award Nominee for his film, The Thief).

I Remember

Academy Award Honoree, Andrzej Wajda directed this Polish-language documentary about four survivors who were either helped or betrayed by their Polish neighbors.

Hell on Earth

Renowned Czech filmmaker Vojtech Jasny directed this Czech-language documentary, a look at Theresienstadt, the "model" Czech ghetto set up by the Nazis to deceive the world about how well the Jews were treated.

strandinthewind · #**105** 12-17-2004, 03:32 PM

Well, it was not just Ford or America for that matter

Here are some articles:

http://www.ranknfile-ue.org/uen_nastybiz.html

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/jun2001/ibm-j27.shtml

http://www.schoolshistory.org.uk/ASL...icrecovery.htm

I think it is important to remember that it is easy to see in hindsight what went on. Many people in the beginning thought Hitler was going to save Germany from its financial ruin, etc. Plus, most of the financial dealing with Germany were perfectly legal. If they knew what was going on though - then that is morally horrible.