Should "I'm So Afraid" be Kerry's campaign song?

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

he went on what the intellegence gave him...

I think is that Shrub's "Intelligence" watched the South Park movie and the "Osama Bin Laden Has Farty Pants" episode and got their info from both that Osama & Saddam were conspiring together

Those intelligent putz couldnt find their balls with both hands.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by dissention

He doesn't agree with abortion, but supports the death penalty. How Christ-like is that?

The bible also teaches that no one should judge another person and that everyone is welcome, no matter what their sexuality is or what their crime is. His faith should not drive federal policies, that's against the Constitution. But no one ever accused Bush of being smart.

But you're from Texas, so...

it does teach that it is wrong.....but you're right .....God will judge them when its their time.....but the i still believe in the protection of the sanctity of marriage. and texas is a great state man......except for the weather but other wise it is a fine fine state and i'm actually FROM ohio but i do live in texas.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by dissention

Did you know that Laura killed her ex-boyfriend when she was younger? How very Christ-like.

right....she killed her ex....gotcha....

[dissention]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

right....she killed her ex....gotcha....

You didn't know that? She killed her ex-boyfriend when she was in her late teens. Go do some research, you'll find all the gory details.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

it does teach that it is wrong.....but you're right .....God will judge them when its their time.....but the i still believe in the protection of the sanctity of marriage. and texas is a great state man......except for the weather but other wise it is a fine fine state and i'm actually FROM ohio but i do live in texas.

The Texans must've warped your mind. Any state that would give Bush his political career is on my **** list of places I'll never visit. You can believe in the "sanctity of marriage" (whatever that is, marriage in this country has been a joke for over fifty years already) all you want, but you also have to understand that other people believe that marriage is simply a vow from one person to another to love them forever. Why should YOUR views or the conservatives or George W. Bush's dictate to the rest of the country what marriage should be? Last tiem I checked, marriage was a legal matter, NOT a religious matter.

Thank the lord I'm from Massachusetts.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

Those intelligent putz couldnt find their balls with both hands.

Oh, Brian! How gay and un-Christ-like!

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by dissention

Oh, Brian! How gay and un-Christ-like!

****, "Im going to burn in hell...Boo-frikkedy-hoo"

Please hold me folkz, "I'm So Afraid" of hell as much as my fear of Rev.Jerry "Money...Mu-mu-mu-money" Falwell & that soon to be extinct "Stevie-goat".

Like I said, God loves a good joke...Thus my sole reason for existence!!!!

[MikeVielhaber]

just found this article...thought it was on topic somewhat here

Hillary, Top Dems Still Would Have Voted for War
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Tuesday, July 13, 2004
Last week Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said, "We in Congress would not have authorized that war – we would not have authorized that war with 75 votes if we knew what we know now."

ABC’s Ted Koppel, host of "Nightline," decided to put the words of the senior Democratic member of the Senate Intelligence Committee to the test.
Koppel’s findings, which aired on ABC Radio late Friday night, directly counter Rockefeller’s suggestion that the Senate would not have strongly endorsed the war against Iraq.


Koppel reported: "We wanted to see whether the conclusions reached by the Intelligence Committee would have made any difference to the other senators who voted to authorize the war in Iraq, so we called them.

"Of the 42 we reached, only three said they would have changed their minds had they known then 'what they know now.'

"Among those who say they would not have changed their minds, a number of prominent Democrats, including Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer and Tom Daschle."


Despite the media buzz last week that suggested the U.S. Congress may have been hoodwinked by the Bush administration and a politicized CIA into voting for the Iraq war, many leading Democrats apparently do not see it that way.


The 511-page report released last week by the Senate Intelligence Committee debunked much of what American intelligence had reported about Iraq.


As summarized by Republican senator and chair of the Select Committee on Intelligence, Pat Roberts:


"Here are some examples of statements from the key judgments. Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear program. Iraq has chemical and biological weapons. Iraq was developing an unmanned aerial vehicle, a UAV, probably intended to deliver biological warfare agents."


But the explosive committee report that lambasted U.S. intelligence about weapons of mass destruction in the hands of Iraq’s Saddam Hussein, has not changed the mind of President Bush, who steadfastly maintained, "I chose to defend the country, and it’s exactly what I would do again."

Bush has consistently argued that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the United States.

But John Kerry’s position on Iraq has vacillated – and may have put him at odds with Senate Democrats who told ABC News they still would have voted for the war.

Kerry, along with his running mate, John Edwards, voted for the war.

But during the Demcratic primaries, Kerry began distancing himself from his war vote and claimed the Bush administration had lied to Congress.

Appearing on "60 Minutes" last weekend, Kerry told Leslie Stahl: "I think the president made a mistake in the way he took us to war. I am against the war – the way the president went to war was wrong."

At the same time, Kerry said he voted to give Bush the authorization to go to war "as a last resort." He added, "I believe, based on the information we have, it was the correct vote."

But Kerry did not say, as Koppel asked knowing "what we know now," if he would still have voted for the war.

Kerry again claimed to Stahl that "the way [President Bush] went to war was a mistake."

But if the war is such a mistake, the question remains whether Kerry would have changed his vote.

Already the Bush administration has seized on Kerry’s equivocating.

In a speech Monday, Vice President dip Cheney chided Kerry for "simply trying to rewrite history for his own political purposes."

"When Congress voted to authorize force against Saddam Hussein, Senator Kerry and Senator Edwards both voted yes," Cheney said. "Now it seems they've both developed a convenient case of campaign amnesia."

[dissention]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

Like I said, God loves a good joke...Thus my sole reason for existence!!!!

Or Bush's existence.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

just found this article...thought it was on topic somewhat here

Hillary, Top Dems Still Would Have Voted for War
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Tuesday, July 13, 2004

But John Kerry’s position on Iraq has vacillated – and may have put him at odds with Senate Democrats who told ABC News they still would have voted for the war.

Kerry, along with his running mate, John Edwards, voted for the war.

But during the Demcratic primaries, Kerry began distancing himself from his war vote and claimed the Bush administration had lied to Congress.

Appearing on "60 Minutes" last weekend, Kerry told Leslie Stahl: "I think the president made a mistake in the way he took us to war. I am against the war – the way the president went to war was wrong."

At the same time, Kerry said he voted to give Bush the authorization to go to war "as a last resort." He added, "I believe, based on the information we have, it was the correct vote."

But Kerry did not say, as Koppel asked knowing "what we know now," if he would still have voted for the war.

Kerry again claimed to Stahl that "the way [President Bush] went to war was a mistake."

But if the war is such a mistake, the question remains whether Kerry would have changed his vote.

Already the Bush administration has seized on Kerry’s equivocating.

In a speech Monday, Vice President dip Cheney chided Kerry for "simply trying to rewrite history for his own political purposes."

"When Congress voted to authorize force against Saddam Hussein, Senator Kerry and Senator Edwards both voted yes," Cheney said. "Now it seems they've both developed a convenient case of campaign amnesia."

He was on Larry King a week and a half ago saying that had he known what he knows now about the sources of the intel, he wouldn't have voted. How did Koppel miss that, it was an hour-long interview?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

just found this article...thought it was on topic somewhat here

Hillary, Top Dems Still Would Have Voted for War
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com

FYI, NewsMax is linked to white supremacy groups.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

i see you buy into all the michael moore BS

No, just the Constitution.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by dissention

Or Bush's existence.

God had that day off when Shrub was created...Thus he blamed Jesus and punished him by sending him to earth to die for his bad quality control practices, Thus making sure Mel Gibson scares folkz with "The Passion"!!!!

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

it does teach that it is wrong.....but you're right .....God will judge them when its their time.....but the i still believe in the protection of the sanctity of marriage.

How about stem cell research?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

right....she killed her ex....gotcha....

On the same day they broke up.