What ONE issue is most important to you in this election year?

[amber]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

OK can I just say F**K gay rights. There I said it, but that's just sucha freaking minimal issue right now, it shouldn't relly matter. And the fact that the president cares more about that then terrorism and the economy combined is just wrong. So gay people like you Johnny, sorry, but just let the president do whatever he wants with gay rights and take a road trip to San Francisco or Masachusetts.

Hmmnnn, not to be rude, but to me that's like saying "F***k Hawkeye's rights, F***k Amber's rights, etc." The desire to fight terrorism, ie the loss of American human lives, to me is no different than fighting so that EVERYONE has the right to live without the threat of danger, or the loss of life. And, hello, gay people are also part of the economy...seriously, did you think about this before you posted?
Amber

[estranged4life]

I am concerned about National Security...I fear that the next terror attack will be the "be all end all" of ALL attacks (ie-Thermal Nuclear Weapons).

Without a country of free citizens (Or world for that matter) what good is an election?

Brian j.

[amber]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

AMEN SISTER GIRL! Welcome to LIHOP/MIHOP.

To answer the original question, getting rid of the unelected fraud is my number one priority this election season. Without that, I fear our republic will meet it's demise.

What does LIHOP/MIHOP stand for? Some sort of "I think there was a Bush administration conspiracy to get a war started because that's the only thing i will know how to handle as president and it will keep people's minds off my evil, disgusting domestic policy" thing?
Amber

[amber]

Originally Posted by Jason T.

This post reminds me of "Another Conservative Moment in Texas." It was a couple of weeks before we got out for the summer and my U.S. History teacher started talking about politics with us. She brought up the train bombing in Spain and how it got the Socialists elected by the public because they would withdraw troops or whatnot. Anyway, then she went so far as to say that if another attack was brought upon the U.S., then that would be the terrorists way of getting the person THEY wanted elected...Kerry. I sat there in confusion and shock as I heard a teacher of all people making this statement...

How can people like her even think this debate is valid. I'm sorry, but since when did foreign terrorists have more say in our elections than African Americans in Florida???

Even more astonishing. I guess this makes terrorists democrats? I thought they were religious maniacs like a certain other group of people in this country?...who could I be referring to?

Some people need to open their eyes and try to realize that fear is not anything to vote on -- the really sad part is almost eveyone in my class agreed with her...

And...that's all for this episode of "Another Conservative Moment in Texas."

You can go back to your regularly scheduled debate...

ahhhhhhhhhh! run! run, dude! heh. Actually, my small white town in California was much the same, suprisingly.
Amber

[Tango]

Originally Posted by amber

What does LIHOP/MIHOP stand for? Some sort of "I think there was a Bush administration conspiracy to get a war started because that's the only thing i will know how to handle as president and it will keep people's minds off my evil, disgusting domestic policy" thing?
Amber

Amber, stop focusing on your job and pay attention to The Ledge. LOL! DeeGeeMe said:
Re: Shrub and 9/11:

LIHOP=Let it Happen on Purpose

MIHOP=Made it Happen on Purpose


Congrats on getting some security back at your job. I hope it lasts for you.

[amber]

Originally Posted by DeeGeMe

Re: Shrub and 9/11:

LIHOP=Let it Happen on Purpose

MIHOP=Made it Happen on Purpose

oops, just saw this. Neverrrmiinnd.
Amber

[amber]

Originally Posted by Tango

Amber, stop focusing on your job and pay attention to The Ledge. LOL! DeeGeeMe said:
Re: Shrub and 9/11:

LIHOP=Let it Happen on Purpose

MIHOP=Made it Happen on Purpose


Congrats on getting some security back at your job. I hope it lasts for you.

Spanks that's so sweet. Actually, don't worry, i wasn't paying attention to my job. I just don't have a computer at home, so usually from 4ish on (PST) i can't see what's up soon.....
Amber

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

That's alright, the first time I heard it a couple years ago, I thought it was some sort of plastic surgery.

Now, more of that lesbian erotica "Sisters" by Lynne Cheney:

"Let us go away together, away from the anger and imperatives of men. We shall find ourselves a secluded power where they dare not venture. There will only be the two of us and we'll linger through long afternoons of sweet retirement. In the evenings, I shall read to you while you work your cross-stitch in the firelight. And then, we will go to bed, our bed, my dearest girl."

Seriously - funniest sh*** ever! Thank you soooo much for having this, and segueing perfectly into it...
Amber

[CarneVaca]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

Unless you are just picking on me personally, you must feel that those who agree with me also need their minds opened along with a course in Spanish history. That is insulting and condescending

You're right. Trying to deal with the facts and taking into account the history is insulting and condescending. Suggesting the people of Spain are a bunch of cowards for exercising their right to vote in a way you disagree with isn't.

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

meant (Do I) Love International House Of Pancakes...Which I don't

My mind went there too, but I do like the place,

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by amber

No - would you like to buy one of my plastic bubbles to live in? That's what I do, and they're more convenient than you might think. They can cut down your doctor visits by at least 80%! I also don't use my teeth anymore, the wear and tear of eating, as we all know, leads straight to the dentist's pocket! for the past 6 mo. I've been extensively studying how to use herbs and spells to heal yourself - powdered chicken's feet are cheaper than you think! I'm also studying self-acupuncture. The bleeding and bruises are a bit messy, but i'm sure saving money!
Amber

Explains a lot.

- Jake

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by CarneVaca

You're right. Trying to deal with the facts and taking into account the history is insulting and condescending. Suggesting the people of Spain are a bunch of cowards for exercising their right to vote in a way you disagree with isn't.

Carne, I said that the attacks may have influenced some people, and that those who were opposed to Spain's military involvement (most of Spain, as we both acknowledge) may have been pushed over the edge by the attacks. That's all I'm saying.

I do not have a problem with you disagreeing with me, even though your aproach is rather abrasive and harsh. What I have a problem with is your constantly trying to tell me I need to open my mind; implying I have no knowledge about Spanish and/or World History; and your suggestions for me to stop posting my views in these threads. I have never said such things to you. I am certainly not going to keep my mouth shut because you told me to.

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

I am certainly not going to keep my mouth shut

And I hope you continue to share your opinions along with everyone else. The more opinions the better in this kind of thread.

- Jake

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by darklinensuit

And I hope you continue to share your opinions along with everyone else. The more opinions the better in this kind of thread.
- Jake

Thanks.

[DeeGeMe]

Originally Posted by Tango

You mean there are folks on board that believe the president and his party, our military, etc knew September 11th was going to happen and let it happen "on purpose?, or somehow encouraged it to happen? I'm just trying to follow.

Yes-you understand correctly. That's exactly what we think and we aren't alone in thinking it either. It's not without presidence after all, FDR let Pearl Harbor be attacked because he knew he would need a compelling reason to get the US involved in WWII. It worked. Also, think about where Bush was at in the polls prior to 9/11--right around where he's at again, in fact. Think about how high his approval ratings bounched after 9/11. Do I think that they thought it was going to be as bad as it ended up being--no. There's a lot of evidence available where people have done a lot of research on this topic. It's very scary stuff.
But think about it--if you're willing to steal an election and dismantle the constitution--would it bother you to allow your own country to be attacked--particuarly if you and your cronies would benefit from it? I doubt it. And that's why I'm in the LIHOP/MIHOP camp.