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Old 08-19-2005, 08:34 PM
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Fun is the last word to use to describe my grandmother. If she'd been a fun drunk, maybe it wouldn't have been so bad. She was more of a "hide in the bathroom with a bottle of Old Crow and a handful of muscle relaxers" kind of a drunk.

Then she'd come out, try to eat something, and nearly choke on it because she'd taken so many muscle relaxers that she couldn't swallow.
Holy crap. I'm sorry - that really sucks

I didn't have to see anything like that - I saw my grandparents plenty drunk in their day - but thankfully never that messed up and I never saw then hungover.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:38 PM
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:47 PM
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Fun is the last word to use to describe my grandmother. If she'd been a fun drunk, maybe it wouldn't have been so bad. She was more of a "hide in the bathroom with a bottle of Old Crow and a handful of muscle relaxers" kind of a drunk.

Then she'd come out, try to eat something, and nearly choke on it because she'd taken so many muscle relaxers that she couldn't swallow.
Living in any kind of situation with an active alcoholic sucks BIG TIME

I never thought that I would find myself in that kind of situation, but right now, I do. And I need to make a decision about how/when/if to leave . . . the hard part is not wanting to abandon someone that you love because they are sick.

Alcoholism is devestating to not only the addict, but also the generations that follow. My grandfather died from the disease, and I always heard such nasty stories from my mother about him and his drinking. As a result, any kind of alcohol was demonized in my home as a kid. My mother judges people who have this kind of addiction, so its not exactly something that I talk about with any of my family, which makes it even more difficult.

Sorry for going off topic - I guess I need to get myself to an alanon meeting.
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:07 PM
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Living in any kind of situation with an active alcoholic sucks BIG TIME

I never thought that I would find myself in that kind of situation, but right now, I do. And I need to make a decision about how/when/if to leave . . . the hard part is not wanting to abandon someone that you love because they are sick.

Alcoholism is devestating to not only the addict, but also the generations that follow. My grandfather died from the disease, and I always heard such nasty stories from my mother about him and his drinking. As a result, any kind of alcohol was demonized in my home as a kid. My mother judges people who have this kind of addiction, so its not exactly something that I talk about with any of my family, which makes it even more difficult.

Sorry for going off topic - I guess I need to get myself to an alanon meeting.
It is a really fine line of knowing when to leave and when to stay and fight. I have seen both work and vice versa. Addiction is not an easy thing. From what I hear, Alanon does work though. Good luck!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:14 PM
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Wow, Heather - sounds like some heavy stuff you're dealing with right now Good luck - and stay strong - and take care of you!
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Holy crap. I'm sorry - that really sucks

I didn't have to see anything like that - I saw my grandparents plenty drunk in their day - but thankfully never that messed up and I never saw then hungover.
Oh, it's okay. I didn't mean to bring the whole thread down.

This is just what my mind immediately goes to whenever people start talking about drinking.
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Living in any kind of situation with an active alcoholic sucks BIG TIME

I never thought that I would find myself in that kind of situation, but right now, I do. And I need to make a decision about how/when/if to leave . . . the hard part is not wanting to abandon someone that you love because they are sick.

Alcoholism is devestating to not only the addict, but also the generations that follow. My grandfather died from the disease, and I always heard such nasty stories from my mother about him and his drinking. As a result, any kind of alcohol was demonized in my home as a kid. My mother judges people who have this kind of addiction, so its not exactly something that I talk about with any of my family, which makes it even more difficult.

Sorry for going off topic - I guess I need to get myself to an alanon meeting.
Hmm...I have to admit, I may be more like your mother. It's like...I have zero tolerance for it. Yeah, Alanon sounds like the best thing. You might want to read Melody Beattie's books, too.
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Living in any kind of situation with an active alcoholic sucks BIG TIME

I never thought that I would find myself in that kind of situation, but right now, I do. And I need to make a decision about how/when/if to leave . . . the hard part is not wanting to abandon someone that you love because they are sick.

Alcoholism is devestating to not only the addict, but also the generations that follow. My grandfather died from the disease, and I always heard such nasty stories from my mother about him and his drinking. As a result, any kind of alcohol was demonized in my home as a kid. My mother judges people who have this kind of addiction, so its not exactly something that I talk about with any of my family, which makes it even more difficult.

Sorry for going off topic - I guess I need to get myself to an alanon meeting.
My Dad became mean to my mother when he was drinking. He was also very nasty to all of us when he was hung over, which was every Sat and Sun. He stopped when I was 11 and had 19 years of sobriety until my Mom left him and now he gets "loaded" (my brother's word) a few nights a week on beer. Its very sad and I'm so worried about him. Perhaps I also need an Al Anon meeting! I've been to them before and found them helpful.

I'm sorry you are going through this. You will get through it and be happy though. It will work out. Through the higher power that they talk so highly of. "Expect a miracle". Take care of yourself.
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Hmm...I have to admit, I may be more like your mother. It's like...I have zero tolerance for it. Yeah, Alanon sounds like the best thing. You might want to read Melody Beattie's books, too.
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Wow, Heather - sounds like some heavy stuff you're dealing with right now Good luck - and stay strong - and take care of you!
Yes, it is VERY heavy right now - and I have been appointed "point person" by his family to contact a professional interventionist (they all live out of state). When it is literally a matter of life or death of your loved one, is there really any other choice but to try everything? It is just so devestating when no matter how much you love them or how much you do for them, their world still revolves around their addiction, and they will sacrifice everything in their life to keep drinking.

Of course, I appreciate everyone's encouragement on this. One of the best things is knowing that you aren't alone, which is why alanon is so helpful. Thanks to everyone.
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Hmm...I have to admit, I may be more like your mother. It's like...I have zero tolerance for it. Yeah, Alanon sounds like the best thing. You might want to read Melody Beattie's books, too.
Yes, I have read a ton of books about this topic and others, and that is one of the most maddening things . . . because you can possess the intellect and the knowledge to know what you need to do . . . but that doesn't always keep the heart from wanting what it wants.

With my career as a divorce lawyer, I know the risks and problems that come from addiction. And yet, it did not stop me from falling in love with someone who was an addict. It makes no sense, and is very frustrating. Many times I feel stupid and like a hypocrite.
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Yes, I have read a ton of books about this topic and others, and that is one of the most maddening things . . . because you can possess the intellect and the knowledge to know what you need to do . . . but that doesn't always keep the heart from wanting what it wants.

With my career as a divorce lawyer, I know the risks and problems that come from addiction. And yet, it did not stop me from falling in love with someone who was an addict. It makes no sense, and is very frustrating. Many times I feel stupid and like a hypocrite.
Well, though there are schools of thought on this, the addiction is only one part of him Hopefully, things will get better and all the good things will shine again instead of being eclipsed by the one big bad thing. In the end, not everyone leaves an addict spouse. Many stay and their help is what gets them through it - but, only you know your limit - so trust your instinct.
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