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Old 07-27-2005, 09:24 PM
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it DETERMINED Saddam had no WMD AFTER inspection. But it never insisted there were weapons there...the UN role was to MAKE SURE nothing was there.
Do you hear what you are saying? Why would they be there in the first place if they thought there was nothing to search for. Thus, the only conclusion is they thought SH had WMD and because he was not complying with either turning those over or proving he or we detroyed them - the entire body of evidence before the UN supports that.
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:26 PM
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and by both sides as far as I am concerned - though people concentrate on the R's more.
Ive yet to hear ONE word about the Dems rigging ANYTHING! Good Grief!
the reason people concentrate on the R's more is because they are doing it more! They got their feet wet in Bush's first coup and then really perfected it for the second.
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:26 PM
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Ive yet to hear ONE word about the Dems rigging ANYTHING! Good Grief!
the reason people concentrate on the R's more is because they are doing it more! They got their feet wet in Bush's first coup and then really perfected it for the second.
Did you look for it?
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:27 PM
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Ive yet to hear ONE word about the Dems rigging ANYTHING! Good Grief!
the reason people concentrate on the R's more is because they are doing it more! They got their feet wet in Bush's first coup and then really perfected it for the second.
Have you learned nothing, dear? You know Jason is going to come back at you with the Florida recounts and how Gore only wanted selective recounts.
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:29 PM
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Do you hear what you are saying? Why would they be there in the first place if they thought there was nothing to search for. Thus, the only conclusion is they thought SH had WMD and because he was not complying with either turning those over or proving he or we detroyed them - the entire body of evidence before the UN supports that.
What I am saying is that the UN expected Saddam to comply way back when, before the Oil for Food fiasco, before Bush, before Clinton! It is BUSH who made the argument that SH had WMD. The UN just wanted to ascertain and confirm or deny. As SH said all along, there were NO WMD. Bush knew that but wanted SH out of the way (what better excuse than non-compliance?) and access to Iraq's oil. Plain and simple.
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:31 PM
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Have you learned nothing, dear? You know Jason is going to come back at you with the Florida recounts and how Gore only wanted selective recounts.
Well, he did in the beginning because he refused to look elsewhere to demonstrate that other recounts in less favorable jurisdictions were necessary, which he could have done under the law - but could not be bothered to care about those people in the pan handle.

But, that is not what I am talking about. A little research will demonstrate my point and I ain't doing it.

I will readily admit though that the apparent R fraud was greater. But, fraud is fraus as far as I am concerned.
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:33 PM
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What I am saying is that the UN expected Saddam to comply way back when, before the Oil for Food fiasco, before Bush, before Clinton! It is BUSH who made the argument that SH had WMD. The UN just wanted to ascertain and confirm or deny. As SH said all along, there were NO WMD. Bush knew that but wanted SH out of the way (what better excuse than non-compliance?) and access to Iraq's oil. Plain and simple.
Well, SH said the same thing to Clinton and Clinton didn't believe him. In fact, Clinton didn't believe SH so much that he gave W essentially all of the intelligence on which W relied to go to war. So, the only conclusion is Clinton and W were in bed together on this issue. Again, Clinton to this day stands behind the information he gave W, which you assert W somehow knew was patently false because SH told him so, which Clinton didn't believe either.

That you do not see this is a little scary.
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Have you learned nothing, dear? You know Jason is going to come back at you with the Florida recounts and how Gore only wanted selective recounts.
Gore wanted recounts in the counties in which he felt the registered Dems were in the majority and the "official" results plainly were at odds with the number of votes one could reasonably expect in Democratic counties. When you read later that people were KEPT from voting via fraudulent means, votes thrown out, votes conveniently "found" later....I mean it all adds up! Except for Jason that is........
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Isnt she married to one of the GOP OLD GUARD? or wasnt she?
She divorced Congressman Michael Huffington (old oil money). He ran against Dianne Feinstein and lost. Then he came out of the closet.
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:36 PM
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Gore wanted recounts in the counties in which he felt the registered Dems were in the majority and the "official" results plainly were at odds with the number of votes one could reasonably expect in Democratic counties. When you read later that people were KEPT from voting via fraudulent means, votes thrown out, votes conveniently "found" later....I mean it all adds up! Except for Jason that is........
and the D's have never ever done any of that

Also and no, there were reports of other discrepencies but Gore did not want to look in those counties. Isn't it amazing he concentrated only on traditionally D counties. I guess that was just a coincidence
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Well, SH said the same thing to Clinton and Clinton didn't believe him. In fact, Clinton didn't believe SH so much that he gave W essentially all of the intelligence on which W relied to go to war. So, the only conclusion is Clinton and W were in bed together on this issue. That you do not see this is a little scary.
There is NO way Clinton and Bush would EVER be "in bed together" on any issue... AGAIN, in words of ONE SYLLABLE: Clin.ton. be.lieved. his. in.tell.i.gence. to be acc.u.rate. Facts proved that he was wrong but Bush did not care. He had an A. GEN. DA.: OIL, and get Sad.dam OUT.

This whole thing is gonna bite Bushybaby in the buttholio you mark my words.
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:38 PM
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There is NO way Clinton and Bush would EVER be "in bed together" on any issue... AGAIN, in words of ONE SYLLABLE: Clin.ton. be.lieved. his. in.tell.i.gence. to be acc.u.rate. Facts proved that he was wrong but Bush did not care. He had an A. GEN. DA.: OIL, and get Sad.dam OUT.

This whole thing is gonna bite Bushybaby in the buttholio you mark my words.
Then why is Clinton still behind Bush's reliance on that evidence. You talk a good game, but have yet to answer that question.

Also, Clinton and Bush I are fast friends now - isn't that just convenient.

BTW - those are polysyllabic words
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and the D's have never ever done any of that

Also and no, there were reports of other discrepencies but Gore did not want to look in those counties. Isn't it amazing he concentrated only on traditionally D counties. I guess that was just a coincidence
No, it isnt a coincidence, it makes perfect sense to look VERY closely at the counties that you expect to have a majority Dem vote, and when they dont, what is wrong with that picture? FRAUD baby FRAUD. pure and simple.

again: when did the Dems ever do any "of that?" WHEN??????
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No, it isnt a coincidence, it makes perfect sense to look VERY closely at the counties that you expect to have a majority Dem vote, and when they dont, what is wrong with that picture? FRAUD baby FRAUD. pure and simple.

again: when did the Dems ever do any "of that?" WHEN??????
You need to look that up. It is there - in fact, I just read it a few days ago. But, you never will because you illogically cannot see past your blind hatred for R's. I can and do.
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Actually, the two together would not be a bad ticket
Yeah, the infamous Dynasty fountain scene with Krystal and Alexis comes to mind.
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