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Old 06-20-2005, 04:12 PM
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3. Concord Pavilion, SYW tour, 6/04
Ohnoyoudidn't! You didn't just Diss my magical birthday show!
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Old 06-20-2005, 04:21 PM
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I have three times:

1. Cow Palace, TITN tour, 12/87

2. Shoreline, OTOTM tour, 10/89

3. Concord Pavilion, SYW tour, 6/04

OK, I stand corrected. Only Rickypt & Diss would say it.

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Old 06-20-2005, 04:31 PM
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Ohnoyoudidn't! You didn't just Diss my magical birthday show!
I hope you enjoyed it and that it was truly magical for you!

And happy upcoming birthday
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Old 06-20-2005, 04:33 PM
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I hope you enjoyed it and that it was truly magical for you!
Well, it was, until you said that!!!
Actually, Concord was great - I thought the sound wasn't as good in San Jose, but it still didn't suck.
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Old 06-20-2005, 10:05 PM
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The Holland show is my favorite from that tour.



You should have seen her in MA on that tour. I was, what, 11 or 12? And I still knew she was awful. It was very disappointing. The boot just surfaced last year and listeing to it again after so long reminded me of how disappointed I was.
Thanks for hosting that Holland show so long ago on your web page. Thats how Alice became my favorite. Thanks so much!

My mom went to that MA show. She said it wasn't that bad and her versions of SB and EO17 were her favorite.
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Old 06-20-2005, 11:34 PM
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No way.

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Old 06-20-2005, 11:39 PM
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Nothing, to me, will ever top some of her performances from the eighties (and some of those Street Angel performances). She was a true rock star back then. Nowadays, she's simply a classy lady that dabbles in a little slowed down rock and roll here and there without doing one more thing than she has to.
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Old 06-20-2005, 11:42 PM
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Nothing, to me, will ever top some of her performances from the eighties (and some of those Street Angel performances). She was a true rock star back then. Nowadays, she's simply a classy lady that dabbles in a little slowed down rock and roll here and there without doing one more thing than she has to.
Have you seen her on this tour? Because I honestly don't think you could make that assessment if you had. I respect your feelings about her 80s performances, and I respectfully disagree, having seen both the OSOTM and SA tours. But that's fine - to each his and her own. I'm not at all saying you're wrong. But, I do disagree with your assessment of her current performances.
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Old 06-20-2005, 11:57 PM
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Have you seen her on this tour? Because I honestly don't think you could make that assessment if you had.
No, I only have the video clips and audio boots to go by. And, for the most part, they don't wow me like they wow everyone else. Circle Dance does and that's about it, though I do like the fact that she's actually singing like she cares for the first time in years. I liked Beauty and the Beast from Vegas, too.

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I respect your feelings about her 80s performances, and I respectfully disagree, having seen both the OSOTM and SA tours. But that's fine - to each his and her own. I'm not at all saying you're wrong. But, I do disagree with your assessment of her current performances.
Yeah, when I mentioned her eighties performances, I was talking about the amazing ones from the OSOTM tour.

BD, TWH, and RAL were Stevie at her prime. In no way will she ever be able to surpass those years, especially nowadays. That's just how I feel.
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Old 06-21-2005, 12:45 AM
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IMO i don't think she is dancing as much on this current tour than the SYW tour. I was expecting some grinding with waddy on SB and some dancing at the end of edge but all we got were twirls. And she didnt come over to the right side of the stage on the interlude to OTR/DREAMS. Not much on Enchanted.At least on the SYW tour she shuffled.
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Old 06-21-2005, 12:58 AM
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BD, TWH, and RAL were Stevie at her prime. In no way will she ever be able to surpass those years, especially nowadays. That's just how I feel.
BATB was a wonder to behold in Vegas. Perhaps the best performance I have ever seen her do. The rest of the show, save SB, was above average, but not stellar. After the Klonopin days, and everything else, the bar is simply lowered. You are right, even without being there. On most songs, she does no more than she HAS to. That is what drives me out of my f*cking mind. Of course, cue everyone to say how much she has been through, how she is 57, blah de blah de f*ing blah blah. Whatever. I know she could probably blow the roof of a joint for 90 minutes straight if she WANTED to. I think she just can't be bothered. But then again, I am not living in her body. I just wish she had the spririt of Tina Turner. But frankly, she never did. When she showed that nuttiness and fire, she was either doing one third of the singing or blown out of her gourd on coke.

BTW, as I have said before, Stevie has always been a notoriously inconsistent performer. Brilliant one night, a disaster the next. All one has to do is read reviews from the 70's and 80's to know that (if you weren't lucky enough to be there, that is...)
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:16 AM
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I love Sheryl Crow and seeing her on the TISL tour was a real highlight. There were even times when her presence overshadowed Stevie because Stevie was so reserved and didn't seem to be into the show one bit. That's my problem with that tour; she seemed bored. The band was also dull and the songs had no kick. Sheryl coming out onstage injected some life into the proceedings.
I have to agree with you on the TISL tour. I payed $1000.00 for two 7th row "VIP" seats and the girl I took (and who was also at the Enchanted show- and who LOVED that Enchanted Mansfield/Tweeter Center show, as did I) said "What was wrong with Stevie?". I really felt like a i blew that money. lol. And I have the 2001 boot from Mansfield, and Stevie sounded not her best. And i remember someone at the Atlantic City show saying how awful they thought she sounded at the Camden show one or two days later. I must say, Stevie's performance at the Trump Taj Mahal was pretty decent. Especially considering it was 4 days after September 11th.
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Old 06-21-2005, 08:13 AM
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I have seen a couple shows this tour and I would not say she is on par with BellaDonna/Wild Heart Stevie. Really not even close. She is dramtically different from TISL/SYW Stevie so that is why she seems so great. However, I still think she is hit or miss. She "seems" more energetic and looks happy but the wild, crazy abandon of Wild Heart is long gone. Even the SA tour was better, IMO. (vocally and energy wise) I agree she looks up, happy, energetic, outgoing, dancy and seems confident compared to SYW/TISL and even Enchanted Stevie and it is a refreshing change. (why she has changed and how long it will last is another story)


BTW...the TISL show in AC was great compared to the boring Camden show. She was REALLY trying to bring people up. She made a choice to go out there and try to forget and lift peoples spirits that night. The pain in her eyes was still there but she tried to look happy and into the show and she did a damn good job. It sort of reminds me of what she is like now...trying really hard ...smile on her face.....determined to put on a good "show" but something still felt really off to me, especially when I looked into her eyes up close during the Edge Walk. (just my opinion...no one has to agree)
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Old 06-21-2005, 08:31 AM
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I have seen a couple shows this tour and I would not say she is on par with BellaDonna/Wild Heart Stevie. Really not even close. She is dramtically different from TISL/SYW Stevie so that is why she seems so great. However, I still think she is hit or miss. She "seems" more energetic and looks happy but the wild, crazy abandon of Wild Heart is long gone. Even the SA tour was better, IMO. (vocally and energy wise) I agree she looks up, happy, energetic, outgoing, dancy and seems confident compared to SYW/TISL and even Enchanted Stevie and it is a refreshing change. (why she has changed and how long it will last is another story)


BTW...the TISL show in AC was great compared to the boring Camden show. She was REALLY trying to bring people up. She made a choice to go out there and try to forget and lift peoples spirits that night. The pain in her eyes was still there but she tried to look happy and into the show and she did a damn good job. It sort of reminds me of what she is like now...trying really hard ...smile on her face.....determined to put on a good "show" but something still felt really off to me, especially when I looked into her eyes up close during the Edge Walk. (just my opinion...no one has to agree)
In Mansfield I looked right into her eyes and her smile looked kind of fake. She didn't except any gifts. The most attention she gave was to the little girl next to me and she just bent her head down towars hers. She still did shake a lot of hands tho and appeared to be having a great time but im not sure.
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Old 06-21-2005, 09:06 AM
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In Mansfield I looked right into her eyes and her smile looked kind of fake. She didn't except any gifts. The most attention she gave was to the little girl next to me and she just bent her head down towars hers. She still did shake a lot of hands tho and appeared to be having a great time but im not sure.
see i really loved the mansfield 2001. probably cause that is the first time i got to be VERY close to the stage. so i was just in awe being so close to her. the other shows i went to before that i was sitting in like 30th row or something.
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